Blu-ray output
by Dexil Rold
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Jun 19, 2008 at 3:19:56 pm
I have Final Cut Pro and just came from an Apple meeting and they will not let me know if or when they will be able to create a Blu-ray. This is my only goal. Is it wise to switch to Adobe to accomplish this? My camera is a Sony Ex-1.
Re: Blu-ray output by Nate Stephens on Jun 19, 2008 at 3:54:16 pm
Jeremy,
I was told the other day that yes you can use a Blue Ray burner attached to the Mac to burn a HD Blue Ray disc using Toast 9,,, But you can not play a Blue ray movie back from the Blue Ray burner on the Mac... Is this true??
Re: Blu-ray output by Chris Borjis on Jun 19, 2008 at 4:05:42 pm
[Nate Stephens]"Is there a favorite Blue Ray Player at a great price out there.... or are they all about the same?"
The PS3 is the best investment/performance right now.
It turns on and loads Blu-Ray or DVD discs just as fast as a dvd set top player, it upconverts standard dvds really well and its the only available profile 2.0 player.
It really does so much more than just video games.
Re: Blu-ray output by Rafael Amador on Jun 19, 2008 at 5:42:05 pm
The Macs can not play Blu-ray disck just because there is not application available.
I can not play commercial BR discs from my LaCie, but I can play EX-1 from them in RT flawlessly.
With 18MB read/write you can even use a Re-writable BR disc as an external HD.
You can't do that with the PS3:-)
Rafael
Re: Blu-ray output by walter biscardi on Jun 19, 2008 at 4:48:21 pm
We've been using Encore since November and it does create BluRay discs very nicely so long as you're not trying to create a custom menu. We've been going round and round with Adobe for about 2 months now on some very VERY basic programming issues.
We'll create the exact same project as a regular DVD and everything works as programmed. We'll switch the same project to BluRay and the button programming all go wacky. Or just create a straight up BluRay project and the buttons are wacky. I'll have a much MUCH longer blog posting next few days or next week filling you in on all the details.
But it does work, we've already created 5 titles and are working on 5 more.
And for reviewing your discs, you'll need a BluRay player with the latest updates. We own the Sony BDP-S1 which is one of the original units and I'm purchasing a new Samsung today that has the latest specs on it. You really want to test on multiple players if you can. We have 5 DVD players here for testing all our DVD titles now and you'd be amazed at the differences in them.
For the actual burner, we have the unit from fastmac. www.fastmac.com No issues.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.
Re: Blu-ray output by David Roth Weiss on Jun 19, 2008 at 5:02:44 pm
[walter biscardi]"We've been using Encore since November and it does create BluRay discs very nicely so long as you're not trying to create a custom menu."
Or, so long as you don't need to replicate...
Cost aside, which is prohibitive, BluRay disks authored in Encore can only be duplicated (burned) at this point. Adobe acknowleges they cannot be replicated (stamped), and they have not divulged if that will change. It may or may not be important to everyone, but its a good thing for anyone making the foray into BluRay authoring to know about.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW's Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
Re: Blu-ray output by Eric Pautsch on Jun 19, 2008 at 9:35:58 pm
Currently DVDit Pro will not output the correct image for replication. It claims it can but it does not. Those images will flat out be rejected by a replicator. Encore never has. I understand from Sonic this will change soon. But "soon" for Sonic can be a year or two.
Re: Blu-ray output by Chris Borjis on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:40:22 pm
[Eric Pautsch]"Currently DVDit Pro will not output the correct image for replication. It claims it can but it does not. Those images will flat out be rejected by a replicator. Encore never has. I understand from Sonic this will change soon. But "soon" for Sonic can be a year or two."
Eric, this is no longer the case, if you request version 6.4 you can not only burn BD-50 but get CMF .9 specification for BR replication.
Re: Blu-ray output by Eric Pautsch on Jun 19, 2008 at 10:59:38 pm
Jeez...I hate it when this info changes so quickly. :) Your correct, it does now. I find it odd though why Sonic would be selling a $30K plus authoring tool and ,at the same time, offer a $400 tool that outputs an image for replication? Seem like a shot in the foot to me. Regardless, I would never trust a BD image out of DVDit Pro unless its gone through an entire verification stage. I'd be surprised if it passes spec verification. Delighted but surprised :)
Re: Blu-ray output by Chris Borjis on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:48:26 pm
[Eric Pautsch]"I find it odd though why Sonic would be selling a $30K plus authoring tool and ,at the same time, offer a $400 tool that outputs an image for replication? Seem like a shot in the foot to me. Regardless, I would never trust a BD image out of DVDit Pro unless its gone through an entire verification stage. I'd be surprised if it passes spec verification. Delighted but surprised :)"
well, scenarist has all the cool stuff you can do (limitless to the specification) where you only get a taste of it in menu's and maybe more than one audio track in the much smaller app.
Sonic Support has verified BD-25 and BD-50 replication with version 6.4
(thats how I learned they began supporting BD-50, I figured it was always going to be limited to BD-25)
Re: Blu-ray output by David Roth Weiss on Jun 19, 2008 at 9:57:32 pm
[walter biscardi]"If you insist."
Well, I do like to report facts. This information comes straight from the horse's mouth, from Adobe's Kevan O'Brien, when "grilled" on the subject back on April 30th at the LAFCPUG meeting. According to Kevan, Adobe is "looking into it."
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW's Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
Re: Blu-ray output by Chris Borjis on Jun 20, 2008 at 4:06:45 pm
[Eric Pautsch]"If 6.4 was only made available a couple weeks ago, I'd really like to know the Where, Whos and Hows of verification and replication from DVDit Pro?"
Sonic being the premiere maker of authoring tools probably has a bedside relationship with Sony. They no doubt ran all the verification tests during development.
SS SCOTT, who moderates on behalf of sonic here at the cow on the dvdit! forum could probably answer that if you ask.
