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How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by sally obrien (saobrien79) on May 29, 2008 at 2:50:30 am

What device do I need to be able to view the video on my moniter in real time? When I'm editing right now I have firewire connected to my camera, and then AV plug-ins go from there to the television (so there's a 1 second delay or so).

Sal

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Tom Wolsky on May 29, 2008 at 3:32:10 am

Are you talking about DV? The lag is the time to make the digital to analog conversion. You can't get rid of it.

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Rafael Amador on May 29, 2008 at 3:37:47 am

Hi Sally,
Try adjusting: System Setting> Playback Control> Frame Offset.

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Tom Wolsky on May 29, 2008 at 3:41:28 am

That adjusts the audio timing on the computer to match the video on the external monitor. It's not a function that should be used.



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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by sally obrien on May 29, 2008 at 3:54:22 am

I guess I was wondering if there was something similar to the Matrox Breakout box that Adobe Premiere uses. When I've used that on Premiere there's no delay from Computer moniter to the TV screen.

Sal

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Rafael Amador on May 29, 2008 at 4:40:51 am

You are absolutely right Tom.
Sorry Sally. I've read your post to fast. Thought you were talking about the audio delay.
As Tom says, there is nothing to do. The signal takes longer to get in your monitor than in your Mac screen.

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Shane Ross on May 29, 2008 at 5:23:30 am

[sally obrien] "I was wondering if there was something similar to the Matrox Breakout box that Adobe Premiere uses"

Well...yeah. There is the Matrox MXO. Bonus with that is that you can use your Apple Cinema Display as an HD broadcast quality color correction monitor.



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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Lu Nelson on May 29, 2008 at 1:17:32 pm

Yeah but...well this is OT; but the MXO does have a significant lag time too. Not 1 second, but about five frames which is why I only use it for review and correction. I edit with Digital Cinema Desktop as its got the lowest lag time of any setup I've tested.

Just get a second monitor for your system and select "Digital Cinema" as your preview type

LMN

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Shane Ross on May 29, 2008 at 2:31:01 pm

Lu, I have not noticed any lag time with the MXO. None. You need to go into the SYSTEM SETTINGS, Playback Control tab and set the FRAME OFFSET to 0. The default is 4...and that makes playback to external monitors off sync.


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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by walter biscardi on May 29, 2008 at 2:42:00 pm

[Shane Ross] "Lu, I have not noticed any lag time with the MXO. None. You need to go into the SYSTEM SETTINGS, Playback Control tab and set the FRAME OFFSET to 0. The default is 4...and that makes playback to external monitors off sync."

And to add to this, it's the same with any video card or playback device. Unless otherwise stated, playback offset always has to be reset to 0 to ensure your playback is in sync. This is the same with the AJA Kona boards and Io devices.

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Lu Nelson on May 30, 2008 at 7:20:34 am

Wow. For real?

Maybe we're talking about slightly different things: I think with the playback offset you may be able to have the Canvas and the MXO in sync; but what I meant with the MXO is that it's the shuttle delay I can't stand. It doesn't stop when I want to stop/start/change directions as fast as Digital Cinema Mode does.

Is it that way in your set up? If not, then there's something really wrong over here.

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Shane Ross on May 30, 2008 at 1:49:55 pm

I haven't experienced that lag at all. As responsive as ever.


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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Lu Nelson on May 31, 2008 at 7:17:06 am

What codecs are you editing with Shane? The MXO claims to accelerate HDV and DVCProHD -- if you're working with one of these, perhaps this is why its faster_?

Lu Nelson
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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Shane Ross on May 31, 2008 at 2:53:33 pm

DVCPro HD.

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Re: How do I view the image on my moniter in real time?
by Lu Nelson on Jun 2, 2008 at 9:14:45 am

Thanks for the info Shane,

I think that's gotta be the reason -- I'm not working in DVCProHD so not benefitting from the acceleration




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