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by Matthew Abourezk on Dec 13, 2007 at 5:49:33 pm |
Hi all, the subject tells the story.
I am doing cross dissolves of a person we videotaped in front of a green screen.
The keying was effortless and the results look good, but about 40% of the time when I do a dissolve or a cross dissolve of the keyed woman, I see a ghost image of the green screen during the transition.
Any thoughts or pointers on this one?
Thanks a bunch,
Matt Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
(203) 327-6617
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Jeremy Garchow on Dec 13, 2007 at 6:05:36 pm |
More info. How'd you do the key?
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Matthew Abourezk on Dec 13, 2007 at 6:13:17 pm |
I used the "Blue and Green" key effect.
I tried the other key tools but had the most luck with this one.
Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
(203) 327-6617
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Tom Matthies on Dec 13, 2007 at 6:16:35 pm |
Is the effect rendered?
Tom
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Matthew Abourezk on Dec 13, 2007 at 6:50:06 pm |
Hi Tom,
Not sure what you mean in asking if the effect is rendered.
When I have the clips stacked in the timeline, I render all, and play back. When playing back I see a ghost-image of the green screen appear during a cross dissolve transition.
Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
(203) 327-6617
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Scott Robinson on Dec 13, 2007 at 7:49:57 pm |
What version of Final Cut are you using? One of my students was seeing the same thing in FCP 4.5 using the same or the Chroma Key filter. I gave him some workarounds but that doesn't answer the obvious question as to why it is doing that. Interested in hearing replies of others that experienced the same thing. Scott Robinson
President
Take 2 Productions, Inc.
http://www.take2productionsinc.com
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• • | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by John Pale on Dec 13, 2007 at 7:58:12 pm |
Make sure all options, including the light and dark green ones, are selecting in your render menu.
if you have some odd combination of rendered and realtime effects you can get stuff like this.
if all else fails, select all the clips, toggle their visibility off and on to delete the render files...then try rendering again.
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Post Man on Dec 14, 2007 at 3:56:08 am |
"I am doing cross dissolves of a person we videotaped in front of a green screen."
What is happening on your background layer during this transisition?
I Find it best to do 1 of 2 things, depending on the composite:
If the backround stays the same during the FG transition, then put the 2 FG clips on separate layers and either use dissolves to fade one out as the other fades in, or adjust the Clips' Opacity with keyframes.
If the background changes during the transition, make up two SEQs, one with one composite, one with the other; cut the two SEQs into your master SEQ and dissolve between them
Cheers,
Neil.
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Post Production
The Pod Multimedia
http://www.the-pod.com.au
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Lee Berger on Dec 14, 2007 at 10:24:47 am |
I've had the same problem. I solved it by turning on shadow in the Motion tab. My project required a shadow behind the keyed subject, and I noticed the problem when I forgot to add shadow to a sequence. If you don't want the shadow to appear try setting the x and y at zero or the opacity at zero. Lee Berger
http://www.leebergermedia.com
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Denez McAdoo on Aug 29, 2012 at 3:45:56 pm |
I know this is an old thread, but I'm having this problem and have yet to find a good answer.
No one has really touched on it, but I think I know what is causing the problem (at least in my case).
As the opacity drops during the cross dissolve (or simple opacity drop), the key is calculating on the currently darker luminance range, the results change, and a different relationship between the two layers occurs.
I need a fix to this. My problem is that I do secondary color correction in FCP by duplicating the layer, keying out their face, and adjusting the lower layer. Cross dissolves result in the top layer fading in at a different rate then the bottom layer, and faces are visibly darker during this.
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Jeremy Garchow on Aug 29, 2012 at 4:13:46 pm |
Nest the dissolved sections.
Jeremy
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Denez McAdoo on Sep 25, 2012 at 8:04:28 pm |
By the way, nesting the layers, then adding dissolve does not seem to work.
For a fade to black, I add a black color matte layer and manually keyframe it's opacity.
However, I still have no work around for cross dissolves...
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• | | | |  | Re: Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve... by Jeremy Garchow on Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42:15 pm |
[Denez McAdoo] "By the way, nesting the layers, then adding dissolve does not seem to work. "
No, you need to nest the layers AND the dissolve so the dissolve is in the nest.
Sorry for the confusion.
Jeremy
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