RT popup menu & THANKS!
by tom
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Nov 5, 2007 at 6:17:55 pm
Hey all:
First, thanks for all the super-helpful responses to my M100 to FCP switch questions a few days ago...taking all that stuff into account as I decide between Aja and KonaLHe (prob Kona simply for HD downconversion to my SD monitor...)
ANYWAY - quick question re: the RT popup menu - when I use it during the sequences that came with the tutorial book I'm using - "Final Cut Pro 6 - Professional Editing in Final Cut Studio 2" by Diana Weynand - there are a host of options and little submenus available in the dropdown. BUT - when I create a new sequence (ProRes square pixels 640x480), there are only like 2 options available, and I have to manually go into System Settings > Playback Control to tweak anything else. Cannot find anyhting in the manual, been thru all the menus, etc etc.
ALSO - still waiting on my RAID (going with G-Speed ES...), so running tutorial files off system drive. Tutorial media is 960x720 ProRe, and dissolves run in real-time from system drive.
BUT - I rendered out some files in 640x480 ProRes, and no matter what I tweak I cannot get the dissolves to play back w/out render. Ugh!
If anyone has a second and a (probaly easy) solution would be grateful.
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by mr.escandon on Nov 5, 2007 at 6:32:27 pm
Yeah John's right - unless you're using a supported Final Cut Pro native preset (there are a ton of them and there's rarely a reason you'd be working outside on of them) then you're not going to get the RT options that you're looking for. ProRes 640x480 is not a default preset so it's no wonder you're not seeing the appropriate RT options.
Try changing your easy set up to a supported FCP preset.
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Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by JeremyG on Nov 5, 2007 at 6:35:38 pm
First rule when switching from Media100 to Final Cut Pro:
Throw out 640x480 as a timeline editing frame size. You will either work in 720x480 (for native dv or dv50 stuff) or 720x486 for uncompressed, ProRes or ProResHQ and other codecs.
Keep 640x480 for square pixel displays (such as making a movie for web delivery/review) but that happens after you export from FCP.
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by Dave LaRonde on Nov 5, 2007 at 8:07:44 pm
It's sad to say, but when you left M100 you left behind easy-to-figure square-pixel TV pictures. FCP works best in SD using non-square-pixel resolutions like 720x480 or 720x486. Resolutions like good ol' 640x480 are pretty much relegated to making content for the internet.
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by tom on Nov 5, 2007 at 8:25:51 pm
OK, understand - BUT - files I am starting with were created at 640x480 square pixels - so is workflow now:
1. Take source files into Compressor first - they come to me at 640x480 square pixels animation codec - and convert to 720x486 ProRes codec, D1 pixels.
2. Import into FCP.
2. Edit in FCP in ProRes.
3. Back to Compressor to convert back to 640x480 square (unbelievable...)
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by Dave LaRonde on Nov 5, 2007 at 8:46:38 pm
[tom]"1. Take source files into Compressor first - they come to me at 640x480 square pixels animation codec - and convert to 720x486 ProRes codec, D1 pixels.
2. Import into FCP.
3. Edit in FCP in ProRes.
4. Back to Compressor to convert back to 640x480 square (unbelievable...)
Is that my workflow?"
Well, what are you doing? Are you trying to go out to videotape, or are you making something for the web? If you're doing a Print to Tape or an Edit to Tape, can't you just do it using your ProRes timeline?
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by tom on Nov 5, 2007 at 9:20:42 pm
Going back to web, mainly, with occasional DVD...
[tom] "1. Take source files into Compressor first - they come to me at 640x480 square pixels animation codec - and convert to 720x486 ProRes codec, D1 pixels.
2. Import into FCP.
3. Edit in FCP in ProRes.
4. Back to Compressor to convert back to 640x480 square (unbelievable...)
Is that my workflow?"
Well, what are you doing? Are you trying to go out to videotape, or are you making something for the web? If you're doing a Print to Tape or an Edit to Tape, can't you just do it using your ProRes timeline?
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by Dave LaRonde on Nov 5, 2007 at 9:36:46 pm
Ah. Now it's a question of how the bulk of the footage originates.
If most of it is new stuff, your workflow is correct. Anybody who mixes footage in FCP has dealt with a situation like yours, especially if they were using different editing application just a couple of weeks ago.
Is it almost all old M100 footage? Try using a custom-made FCP sequence (aka Program in M100-speak), and converting the small amount of newly-captured footage.
And remember the new field order. M100's 640x480 interlaced footage was upper field first. In 720x486 or 720x480, it's lower field first. FCP erroneously refers to field order as field dominance -- keep that in mind.
Re: RT popup menu & THANKS! by mr.escandon on Nov 5, 2007 at 8:57:50 pm
Tom,
That would work. Your biggest issue for being able to edit in real time is that you said you have animation codec files. Final Cut doesn't work on animation codec files anywhere near real time as you've witnessed. Your options are either rendering them whenever you drop them down, or converting them to a codec like ProRes 422 first like you mentioned.
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Paul Escandon
Producer | Director | Editor
Apple Certified Trainer - Final Cut Pro
Oremus Productions
www.oremusproductions.com
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Adjunct Professor of Media
John Paul the Great Catholic University
