Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by Shane Ross on Oct 29, 2007 at 2:45:31 am
DVCPRO HD is an 8-bit codec. For 10-bit you need ProRes or 10-bit Uncompressed.
I only work with DVCPRO HD natively. And the NEW series I am working on will be finished by another person at a post house (I'll be creative cutting only), so I won't get the chance unless I do it on my own.
Walter no doubt is. But again, PRORES, not DVCPRO HD.
Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by Dannyboyfl on Oct 29, 2007 at 2:58:13 am
Your right, I wasn't thinking when I posted this. I'm going to using AJA 1080i 10 Bit Uncompressed. Has anyone had any experience with this in FCP6 and Color yet?
Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by gary adcock on Oct 29, 2007 at 2:50:58 pm
Your right, I wasn't thinking when I posted this. I'm going to using AJA 1080i 10 Bit Uncompressed. Has anyone had any experience with this in FCP6 and Color yet?
That would be me.
the best warning on Using Color would be to make sure you have the ATi1900XT card- it is 3-5x faster on the renders in Color.
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Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by walter biscardi on Oct 29, 2007 at 3:28:16 pm
[gary adcock]"the best warning on Using Color would be to make sure you have the ATi1900XT card- it is 3-5x faster on the renders in Color."
Maybe for uncompressed, but we're getting terrible render speeds using DVCPro HD. 4 - 6 hours for a single 22 minute episode. Definitely was not this slow when it was Final Touch HD.
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Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by Dannyboyfl on Oct 29, 2007 at 5:31:33 pm
You guys are awesome on the info. thanx a million. I just moved from Avid Composer to FCP5. I'm editing in DVCPRO 50 for this edit season... 3 weeks left. Then on to finishing in HD. The one thing that I'm not happy about it the video quality isn't there, in comparison to my Avid. My Avid is doing a 2:1 ratio. and the FCP with Kona3 is DVCPRO50 Highest Quality 8 bit. Am I missing something? should I have used 10bit? In a couple weeks I'll test out the ProRess in FCP6 and compare it to my Avid.
Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by Shane Ross on Oct 29, 2007 at 8:26:13 pm
[Dannyboyfl]"My Avid is doing a 2:1 ratio. and the FCP with Kona3 is DVCPRO50 Highest Quality 8 bit. Am I missing something? should I have used 10bit?"
Again, DVCPRO 50 is an 8-bit codec. As is DV25 and DV/NTSC. Capturing DV50 via firewire is getting you all the quality you can get...pure data transfer.
Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by gary adcock on Oct 29, 2007 at 10:19:52 pm
My Avid is doing a 2:1 ratio. and the FCP with Kona3 is DVCPRO50 Highest Quality 8 bit. Am I missing something? should I have used 10bit?
you have to think about compression differently with FCP you do not have the same options.
I am switching over to ProRes for my Day to day workflow in 10bit,think of ProRes the same as you would DNxHD the 2 codecs are more similar to each other than they are different.
This is all SD too, thought you asked about 10bit HD?
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Re: Anyone working in 10bit HD? by Dannyboyfl on Oct 29, 2007 at 10:42:42 pm
I did. What it really comes down to is I want the highest quality possible. We are shooting XDCAM, and HDV. (firewire transfer, thats the best the video will get) We are also about to start going trough 4 years of BetaSP and Digibeta tapes to upconvert to 1080i via the Kona 3 card. We are putting in a 60TB xsan, and have 4 or 5 work stations. We're not to worried about drive space, we want fast render or realtime and the best quality possible. I just want to know what the best format would be for us to digitize our old video to for HD. Our final out put will be a D5 deck. So the other question comes to. What would be the best setting for my sequences to work with these different file formats for speed and quality?
Thanx, guys. I should have been more direct with my question in the first place. dan.
