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Multi Channel Audio Capture in Final Cut
by Chet Wesley on Sep 17, 2007 at 6:16:41 pm

Is it possible to capture more than a single stereo (or dual mono) track from Mini DV or DV cam in Final Cut Pro?

What I mean is, is it possible for someone to print 4 channels of audio to a miniDV tape in the first place, and then to capture all four of those channels in final cut?

I know the miniDV spec has the capability of 4 ch of 32kHz 12bit audio, but I don't have any experience with printing to tape in that configuration, nor in capturing anything like that from tape.

If it is not possible from miniDV, then what formats is it possible from?

Thanks

CW

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Re: Multi Channel Audio Capture in Final Cut
by Michael Alberts on Sep 17, 2007 at 10:23:00 pm

We capture and ouput 4ch of audio on a daily basis from HDCAM and Digibeta. With HDCAM SR you can go as high as 12 channels I believe. This is all done through our Kona3 cards.

Michael Alberts
Ambidextrous Productions, Inc.
www.ambidextrous.net

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Re: Multi Channel Audio Capture in Final Cut
by Chet Wesley on Sep 18, 2007 at 1:45:16 pm

Do you know if it is possible to take advantage of the 4 channel spec in miniDV using final cut?

I have been told by my employer that they regularly have had projects in the past where the music and voice come as split tracks. They don't know the technical details of it (I'm the video nerd here)... so I am trying to figure out if they have been getting projects on tape that just have a mono audio track and a mono V.O. track, or if there is some wizardry at hand that I am not aware of.

I've been told they do this with miniDV and DV cam tapes, but I am skeptical.

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Re: Multi Channel Audio Capture in Final Cut
by thrillcat editorial on Sep 20, 2007 at 2:00:08 pm

You can capture all 4 channels from the DV tape, but you have to make 2 passes. DV over FW only supports 2 channels at once. You have to capture the video and 1st 2 channels, then create a new clip with the same in & out, set up FCP to capture the second 2 channels (in the capture preset), set your deck/camera to output 3&4, then do another pass.



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Re: Multi Channel Audio Capture in Final Cut
by Chet Wesley on Sep 20, 2007 at 2:18:28 pm

Thanks, that is very helpful info...
So the question is, how would a person get four channels to tape in the first place?

I assume they would also have to make two passes when printing to tape as well... would you have to use "edit to tape" to do the second pass? I have never actually had a reason to use that feature, so I don't know much about it.

Seems like this is too complicated to be worth it (sending a quicktime with a few extra aiff audio tracks seems like it would be a lot more effective).

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Re: Multi Channel Audio Capture in Final Cut
by thrillcat editorial on Sep 20, 2007 at 2:48:14 pm

They are able to get it on tape in the camera because they're not going through firewire. The DV format supports 4channels, but DV over FW doesn't.

I wouldn't use it anyway, because at 4 channels, it's only 12bit 32khz, which is not recommended.

I don't know about getting it back to tape. I've never delivered on DV.

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