HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17"

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 1:24:14 am Those are your two options. My advice? The IoHD as it has input as well as output. The MXO is output only. Jeremy Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 3:28:51 am [mfassett] "I need HD-SDI output in order to drive my external HD monitor. Problem... the Matrox MXO, the obvious choice which I just received, doesn't support any monitors that are dual link." What? HD SDI Dual Link to drive the 30" monitor? That doesn't make sense to me. I thought you needed Dual Link DVI ports to support that monitor. Do you mean you need Dual Link HD SDI to power an HD CRT? I thought that dual link HD SDI was for outputting to HD Decks. I thought the MXO was dual link...I'll have to check. Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 3:43:31 am His DVI monitor is dual ink, the MXO does not support a dual link monitor connected to it (probably because it needs one of the single links to output video) so it can only push a single link monitor, not a dual link. Make sense? Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 3:49:51 am OK...but he said "HD SDI Dual Link." that is what confused me. DVI dual link is what the monitor needs. I'd like to see if the AJA I/O HD will work with this monitor the same way a MXO works with the 23" ACD. Because Matrox built in the gamma shift needed to turn a Cinema Display into a color grading monitor, and it has tools to adjust chroma, hue, brightness and contrast....and a blue only option. Wonder if the i/o HD will have that. If not, I don't see how it could be used to make the 30" monitor a color grading monitor. Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 3:53:05 am I don't think the ioHD has DVI out... Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 4:13:57 am [JeremyG] "I don't think the ioHD has DVI out..." Nope, is sure doesn't: http://www.aja.com/html/products_Io_IoHD.html So there is no way that you can get a nice decent image to the 30" monitor. The MXO only supports the 23" model AFAIK...and the I/O HD doesn't output DVI. Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 4:20:38 am Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he is looking for a single link HD SDI to drive his HD monitor and a dual link DVI to drive his 30" for extra computer monitor space. The MXO won't push his 30" dual link computer monitor so he either needs to trade down to a smaller computer monitor to use the MXO to push his HD SDI Hd monitor OR not use the MXO and use the ioHD to push the HD SDI monitor and then use his laptop to push to 30" DVI monitor for more computer monitoring. I don't think he's trying to use the 30" for Hd monitoring. Jeremy Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 4:52:45 am [mfassett] "That's the big question y'all!" Which brings up right back to my first response. No. Either trade in your 30 for a 23 and use the MXO, or live with the 30 and get the ioHD. My recommendation? ioHD. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 5:01:53 am [mfassett] "Sorry Jeremy, wasn't meaning to disrespect you" none taken. SOme people will tell you that editing on a laptop is ludicrous. With the ioHd and the fast storage options that you can connect to a laptop these days, I say they are ludicrous. jeremy Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 4:54:25 am [mfassett] "Actually if you re-read my post... I don't think I wrote "HD dual link."" "I need HD-SDI output in order to drive my external HD monitor. Problem... the Matrox MXO, the obvious choice which I just received, doesn't support any monitors that are dual link." Ah...I think I read into the question WAY wrong. Which is why I initially asked if you meant you needed HD SDI to power an HD monitor. Gotcha. Yeah, I see this is quite a quandry. In that case, the I/O HD will be your only option. Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 5:03:35 am [mfassett] "it's three times the money of the MXO" It is a much more powerful machine than the MXO. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 5:11:52 am If you don't need input, then the MXO and a 23" is what you need. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 5:14:09 am Also, the ioHd isn't available until July. The MXO you can get right now. Jeremy Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 5:22:13 am [mfassett] "but if that's my only HD-SDI out option running the 30", so be it. " i hear you. What do you have for storage...just curious.... Jeremy Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by JeremyG on May 11, 2007 at 5:25:58 am What kind of speeds are you getting? Any Raid protection? How many drives? Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 5:31:35 am Can't be getting more than 100MB/s...that is the limit of PCIexpress. But still, I'll bet decent numbers. Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Sean ONeil on May 11, 2007 at 8:22:30 pm [Shane Ross] "Can't be getting more than 100MB/s...that is the limit of PCIexpress." What are you talking about? PCIexpress is 500MB/s per lane. And ExpressCard slots are 250MB/s. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 5:21:08 am Well, you can use the 30" monitor as your monitor, until you need to output, then you can use the MXO and your HD monitor. Or get the 23" ACD. Or wait until July and get the I/O. One of my mottos is buy what you need when you need it. If you need HD SDI out now, then use the MXO and trade the 30" for a 23". Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Shane Ross on May 11, 2007 at 2:57:52 pm [Oliver Peters] "With 23 and MXO, you loss the second desktop display during editing, because that is taken up by the MXO's DVI output." Incorrect. You can still see the second monitor with the MXO connected. Just don't have VIEW>ALL FRAMES selected. [Oliver Peters] "You basically switch back and forth between second desktop and fullscreen video made possible by MXO, because the MXO's DVI and video outputs are mirrors of each other, not separate outputs." AH...now I see what you mean. You can't have the MXO connected and use two Cinema Displays for your workspace, and send a signal to an HD monitor....because for the signal to be sent you have to view all frames. Ahhh. Yes, you'd need a second video card to hook the MXO up to. The MXO is simply a low cost alternative for viewing broadcast colors. If you can afford the I/O HD, by all means get that. If you can't, then the MXO is a viable option. Shane Littlefrog Post www.lfhd.net Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by gary adcock on May 11, 2007 at 1:20:27 pm [mfassett] "of course, it's three times the money of the MXO, but life is hard. :)" but the IoHD has 3x the functionality, Up , Down, and Cross conversion, Capture from all single link HD or SD sources, and can work on any computer that can play FCP 6 etc. the MXO can only be used as an output device, thats all it does. gary adcock Studio37 HD & Film Consultation Post and Production Workflows Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HD-SDI output on a macbook pro 17" by Andy Mees on May 12, 2007 at 2:09:52 pm 3x the functionality in many regards but what it wont do is give you a color critical reference signal to an Apple 23"cinema display ... if you have abroadcast HD monitor you ar ecertainly good to go with one of these babies, but if you are looking for lower cost access to a reference signal with existing equipment then the MXO is still playing in a league with little if any competition Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index