| Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP
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 | Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP
by BobAnderson on Nov 27, 2006 at 11:57:32 pm |
Folks,
Worked for a few hours at the local MAC store with the tech guy. We tried capturing HDV video from our Sony HDR-FX1 camera using the 1080i selections. FCP would not recognize the camera in any HDV mode. The preview screen remained ablaze with color bars and the stoic banner "Preview Not Available". We were forced to use the NTSC Anamorphic selection so it would only capture in 720 x 480 resolution. QuickTime, OSX and FCP were all latest up-to-the-minute versions.
I realize that with this problem so stated, there are countless troubleshooting questions/variables involved...but just lobbing this problem out into the COW atmosphere, does it ring a bell ("cowbell" pun not intended) or does it jog anyone's memory regarding someone else having this problem? Is there a simple, "Oh yeah, Bernie had this problem...you just need to download the v.22 FernDock Codec." Or does this scenario raise a galaxy of questions that stretch before us an uncertain and endless highway of detective work?
Thanks for the fantastic services of CC. Where would we be without you guys?
--Bob
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Kevin Monahan on Nov 28, 2006 at 4:11:04 am |
This should be never be a problem if you:
A) Power Up external gear (drives, cams, and decks) prior to launching your Mac.
B) Use the Easy Setup for HDV 1080i prior to creating a new project.
C) Come to the Cow before going to the Apple Store. ;-) Kevin Monahan
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by zrb123 on Nov 28, 2006 at 6:09:40 am |
Make shure the camera is set to play back HDV not DV
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Jeremy Doyle on Nov 28, 2006 at 2:28:35 pm |
And make sure the footage was shot HDV not DV.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by BobAnderson on Dec 4, 2006 at 9:29:39 pm |
Hi Kevin,
I sure appreciate your time in trying to help.
We still have the problem even though we...
A) Powered Up external gear prior to launching the Mac.
B) Used the Easy Setup for HDV 1080i prior to creating a new project.
There seems to be an irreconcilable difference between the Sony HDR-FX1 and Final Cut Pro. We have to slip the selection over to regular NTSC or anamorphic to even see a preview image. But if we try to go HDV on FCP capture, it's color bars and warnings that the device cannot be found. :(
Thanks,
Bob Bob Anderson
http://www.bobanderson.biz
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by zrb123 on Dec 5, 2006 at 3:29:38 am |
Just want to double check if the footage was atutaly shot in HDV or DV (the FX! will shoot both.
If it was shot in HDV check to make shure that the camera is set back to play back the HDV as HDV (the camera can also downconvert and play back HDV as DV)
If the record setings and Play back setings are net all HDV it will not show up in FCP ass HDV
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by BobAnderson on Dec 5, 2006 at 2:33:42 pm |
Thanks, ZRB,
Yes, the footage was shot in HDV and playback set to HDV.
Bob Anderson
http://www.bobanderson.biz
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by zrb123 on Dec 6, 2006 at 2:45:49 am |
Thanks that is always the fisrt thing I have people check.
When FCP is is set to DV NTSC and recognises your video, did yoou switch the camera to play back in DV mode or did you leave the camera to play back in HDV mode.
The only reason I say this is because from everything you say it sounds like it was ether shot in DV or the camera is set to play back DV.
If the camera is set to play bak HDV and FCP is reading it as DV here are the posible problems.
1- Camera is actualy set to play back in DV
2- Video was actualy shot in DV so camera automaticaly plays back in DV
3- the camera has a problem and says it is playing back in HDV when it realy isnt.
Try doing a reset on the camera
Try playing the HDV tape from another Sony HDV camera (if the other camera douse the same thing I am willing to bet that the camera was actualy set to record DV when the video was recorded)
Try capturing from a diferent computer
Have you tries trashing the FCP preference files
By the wasy what verson of FCP are you using
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 10, 2008 at 4:20:35 pm |
I use the exact same camera, but FCP 6, not sure what version you are using. Anyway, the camera cab be a little weird I guess. siny has this feature called iLink. iLink basically for the camera to convert HDV into DV, without you having to do it. So, if you are in HDV mode and iLink turned on, you are saying that you want your HDV footage to be converted into DV footage, so FCP will look for a D signal, not HDV.
I've had this problem many times.
So, make sure your camera is in HDV mode for the VCR, and make sure iLink is turned off.
For getting a good picture, I'm not sure yet. I'm still playing around with settings on capturing and getting the getting the best image possible.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Wayne Mitchell on Oct 23, 2008 at 4:53:15 am |
Hello Bob,
Did you ever get your issue resolved? I'm dealing with the same problem and the thread's advice hasn't helped any. I'm using a Sony FX1 -HDV footage with the VCR setting set to HDV, with the iLink conversion at 'off', and I'm using FCP 5.0.4 with the easy set up for HDV 1080i60. I end up with it saying that it can't read the deck and left with the color bars.
Any help is appreciated,
Wayne
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 23, 2008 at 1:19:28 pm |
Wayne (and anyone else),
I actually just captured a music video in HDV, and it captured butter smooth.
Make sure you are using these settings inside FCP. Take a look at these screen shots:
Audio/Video Settings:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4HTX10Qq77I/SPj7c_EdfAI/AAAAAAAAACY/Xo6yIPq1Jv8/s...
Note: I actually changed my Sequence Preset from "HDV 1080i60" to "Apple Intermediate Codec" - it seemed to work better for me. Also, Apple recommends that codec as it was built for HDV via Apple.
Sequence Presets:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HTX10Qq77I/SPj7tjTg74I/AAAAAAAAACg/kRAqcltpyQI/s...
Also, do make sure you refresh your A/V devices in the View menu. As you will see in the Audio/Video Settings, Sony HDV Firewire is selected for the control device, as opposed to Firewire Basic or Firewire NTSC.
Also, this is what Apple says about the Apple Intermediate Codec: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2704
If you still have issues, I suggest maybe using a different Firewire cable, making sure your Firewire port that you are capturing to is in good working condition, and that FCP is in good working condition.
These settings should work perfect for you, as they do for me.
Let me know.
Ryan
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Wayne Mitchell on Oct 24, 2008 at 7:54:20 pm |
Hello Ryan,
Thanks for the advice. I was able to get it to work when I unplugged the firewire plug from the front to one on the back. I saw that on one of the posts and tried it out. Thanks also for the 'Apple Intermediate Codec' note. All those choices . . .
I appreciate the help,
Wayne
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 24, 2008 at 10:17:22 pm |
No problem, glad its working out for you.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by seth morrisey on Oct 19, 2009 at 7:18:36 pm |
Hey Ryan, your post contains the answer to my question, but those two screenshots you linked to no longer are valid, is there anyway you could reconect those?
Thank you,
Seth Morrisey
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 19, 2009 at 7:30:46 pm |
My mistake. I went through my picture a while ago and just deleated. Basically, make sure your Sequence Preset is either AIC or Apple Pro Res at 60i and Capture Preset is either AIC or Pro Res as well.
What issues are you having?
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by seth morrisey on Oct 20, 2009 at 9:11:00 pm |
Thanks for the reply Ryan!
I tried the settings you recomended, and still no luck. FCP is reading the camera but will not import footage. One thing I have noticed is on my Sony HDR-FX1 where the firewire connects to the camera, there is a two blue lights, with the words, "HDV" and "DV" and while the firewire is connected the blue light is on HDV, when I hit "Play" to begin importing footage, the blue light switches to "DV", the import screen stays black and does not import any footage. I'm wondering if maybe there is a setting on the camera I'm missing that is trying to get it to import as "DV" instead of "HDV".
My camera is the SONY HDr-FX1 and my computer is a MAC OS X Version 10.5.8 and I'm running the newest version of Final Cut Pro, i'm importing with a Belkin 800/400 9-pin to 4-pin Firewire Cable.
Any imput would be great!
thanks,
Seth
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 20, 2009 at 9:56:11 pm |
Oh ok. This is a camera thing. Sounds like FCP is set to go though.
You'll want to turn the VCR to HDV, and then turn off iLink Conversion as well as AV to DV...all off. These settings (mainly iLink and AV to DV) tell your NLE to import SD footage, not HDV.
This should work out for you. The VCR should show HDV then.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 20, 2009 at 9:57:35 pm |
Sorry, duplicate post...
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by seth morrisey on Oct 21, 2009 at 4:47:25 am |
thanks a bunch Ryan. I will try your suggestions first thing in the morning and let you know if it worked. I really appreciate your help.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 21, 2009 at 4:00:20 pm |
Not a problem. The settings can be a bit confusing, but once you know what needs to be done - its no more difficult than setting up a project in FCP.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Pete Riley on Mar 4, 2011 at 10:38:57 pm |
I am having the same problem as Seth with FCP and my HDR-FX1. The capture interface sees the camera and can control it, but I get a black screen and no video. Any ideas?
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• • | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05:32 am |
Ok, here are some slightly different settings for HDV capture on the HDR-FX1 with FCP 6:
Camera (VCR) Settings:
- VCR HDV/DV: make sure "HDV" is selected
- i.Link Conv: Off
- A/V to DV out: Off
Refer to the picture below for FCP settings...
Note: I have found that although ProRes 422 captures files that are much larger in file size, it captures the highest possible quality that you can get from the HDR-FX1, as opped to the Apple Intermediate Codec.
So, assuming your FireWire 400 cable and port (on both the computer and camera) are working properly, this should work perfectly. I'd also make sure you have installed all updates for Final Cut Studio 2 as well.
Also, make sure that your tape actually has HDV 1080i footage on it. Some people think that just because they use a DVM63 tape that is has HDV footage on it - not true. This tape is really no different then a standard DVM60 tape. The DVM63 can also record DV footage to it as well.
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by christina rule on Oct 13, 2010 at 2:31:31 am |
THANK YOU SO MUCH! EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!
Do you know if you can record a live feed while using these settings?
If not what tapes would you recommend using?
If not tapes what other options do you have with this camera?
Sorry Im use to using HVX with P2 cards. Thanks!!!
http://www.christinarule.com
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Ryan Atkins on Oct 13, 2010 at 3:00:06 am |
No, for a live capture you'll want to change the Capture device to "Non-Controllable". When recording footage to a tape, any standard MiniDV will do. I will suggest that you use Sony brand - and/or just stay consistent with your tape brand, as they have different chemicals that could potentially damage your tape heads on your camera deck if mixed.
I've always used Quicktime to capture live - just start a new video recording and make sure the camera is the selected device.
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• • | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by christina rule on Oct 15, 2010 at 7:52:19 pm |
Sorry for this question... I'm not in-front of FCP and I'm trying to make notes for when I am :)
I need to keep the file size down when capturing footage... Would you recommend capturing at 720p instead of 1080i?
If yes, would I just change the sequence presets to 720p?
Thanks for all your help so far !!!
http://www.christinarule.com
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• • | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Wayne Mitchell on Oct 19, 2009 at 10:26:05 pm |
Had the same problem and what fixed it was plugging it in to the back of the computer instead of the front (which was what I was doing). Hope this helps...
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by christina rule on Oct 13, 2010 at 1:26:15 am |
When you shot this footage did you shot to tape? Or were you doing a live feed to final cut?
http://www.christinarule.com
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• | | | |  | Re: Sony HDR-FX1 - trouble w/ VIDEO CAPTURE in HDV with FCP by Pablo Ortiz on Apr 19, 2011 at 6:33:17 pm |
Hello! Can Some one help me out here!!?
Im working with final cut 6.0.6 I have finished a commercial and need to print to tape on a Sony HDV - HDR FX1 and have no image.. I was able to upload very fine and smooth but now I have a finish product broadcast quality and cannot print to tape can some one help me with this , do i need a plug in or what might i be doing wrong!!???
Thanks!
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