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Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by joseph wilkins on Jul 31, 2006 at 8:29:59 pm

I have AE and FCP HD 5.1

I shoot my greenscreen footage on my HVX200

I bring it into After Effects and using Keylight, get a beautiful key.

I export that file as a quicktime file with an alpha channel.

I bring it into FCP HD and put it in my project and AAARGH! An awful white haze line appears outlining my subject.

I go back to check AE and put it on the same black backgroound - again - it looks beautiful - no white line around it.

Back to FCP - Cant get rid of it!!!

PLEASE someone help

Thanks


Joseph

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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by Shane Ross on Jul 31, 2006 at 8:40:48 pm

DVCPRO HD and keylight in AE don't mix. Trust me...I've tried it. The issue is that Keylight doesn't quite keep the footage "solid." It is slightly transparent...or SOMETHING...because I got heavy artifacting when I used it. I liked how keylight kept the motion blur, but it just brought out big compression issues. Go to my blog and see what I was dealing with. You will have to go down a bit: www.LFHD.net. I posted examples of what I was running into.

ANWAY...my solution? Shake. This allowed be to create a HOLD OUT MATTE that made the center of the men rather solid, I then used keylight for the edging so that I could get the blur out.

If you can make a hold out matte in AE, then that is what you need to do. I couldn't figure it out, and since a buddy of mine is a Shake master and knew, I bought it.


Shane


Littlefrog Post
www.lfhd.net

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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by Nick Toth on Jul 31, 2006 at 9:01:02 pm

Did you try changing the alpha channel interpretation in FCP? Livetype renders always have to be changed to
"black" from "straight" or they don't key right. It's worth a shot

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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by Peter McAuley on Jul 31, 2006 at 9:47:28 pm

I think Nick is onto something. I had the same problem once. Get info on the the clip and select format. Under alpha you can right click the different alphas.

Good luck

Peter McAuley
Axyz Edit
Toronto
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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by Dave LaRonde on Jul 31, 2006 at 10:13:45 pm

[Peter McAuley] "I think Nick is onto something."

Yup, I vote for an Alpha Channel misinterpretation, too.

You can change it FCP, but if you want, you can also make a new AE Output Module. Just change the kind of Alpha Channel you're making. If you're currently using Straight, use Premultipled. Currently using Premultipled? Use Straight.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by Rick Diamond on Aug 1, 2006 at 2:34:39 pm

Why not just build the whole comp in AE and forget about exporting with alpha channel?

Rick

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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by Dave LaRonde on Aug 1, 2006 at 3:51:09 pm

[Rick Diamond] "Why not just build the whole comp in AE and forget about exporting with alpha channel?"

Now, there's a swell idea!

Of course, the demands of the project may require the footage with the alpha channel to go over a variety of backgrounds... and then it makes sense to do have alpha channeled footage way.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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Re: Wierd Thing Happens When Working With Greenscreen
by JeremyG on Aug 1, 2006 at 4:52:46 pm

I would definitely take the advice of switching the alpha from straight to premultiplied (can be done the browser), and I would also double check what your BG color was when rendering out of AE, it should be black. Sometimes AE will pick up a little of the color in the alpha channel and display it in FCP. Changing the alpha type should remedy this problem, though.

Jeremy

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