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720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by Neil Sadwelkar on Mar 10, 2006 at 3:52:30 am

I've posted this at the BM forum as well, but am reposting in case someon here may have a clue...

I have a Quncktime uncompressed 10 bit 720p23.98 timeline. I can play it on a Panasonic HD monitor as 720p23.98 or as 1080p23.98 using up-conversion in the card, I guess. Both look fine.

But when I connect to a D5 deck (Panasonic 3700), only the 720p looks fine. The 1080 strobes somewhat.

Also, the deck can only record as 720p59.94 with the 720 signal I'm feeding. AND, the client wants a transfer at 720p59.94 but with non-drop time code.

I'm from a PAL place, sot this is making my head swim a bit. Anyone with any ideas?

Basically, my timeline is 720p23.98. What are the various recording options I have with D-5.

Neil

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Re: 720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by walter biscardi on Mar 10, 2006 at 11:32:44 am

[Neil Sadwelkar] "I have a Quncktime uncompressed 10 bit 720p23.98 timeline. I can play it on a Panasonic HD monitor as 720p23.98 or as 1080p23.98 using up-conversion in the card, I guess. Both look fine.

But when I connect to a D5 deck (Panasonic 3700), only the 720p looks fine. The 1080 strobes somewhat."


Does the BMD card do a true cross-convert from 720 to 1080 or is your monitor doing this?

[Neil Sadwelkar] "Basically, my timeline is 720p23.98. What are the various recording options I have with D-5."

D5 does accept 24p so you can lay off your 23.98 timeline directly to the D5 unless your final delivery has to be 1080. When I deliver 1080 here in the states it always has to be HDCAM, not D5.

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Re: 720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by Neil Sadwelkar on Mar 10, 2006 at 5:50:45 pm

[walter biscardi] "Does the BMD card do a true cross-convert from 720 to 1080 or is your monitor doing this?"

I think it is the card. When I switch from 720 to 1080 via the easy setup, the monitor OSD reports the resolution. Likewise when I switch back to 720. Maybe its psF not true P or something like that.

If I keep my out at 720, the deck doesn't allow 1080 to be an option.

Neil

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Re: 720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by walter biscardi on Mar 10, 2006 at 5:59:12 pm

Unless your card is doing a true cross convert of 720 to 1080 then it probably would cause some issues with your output to tape.

I can manually switch my Kona 2 from 720 to 1080i but I'm forcing it to play back the material in a non-native state and it doesn't look very good. My Monitor will show that it's now receiving 1080i, but the K2 does not do a true cross-convert of 720 to 1080i or vice-versa.

My 1200A deck does. So I'm just wondering if your card is doing the true cross-convert or if you're just manually switching the output and while it looks decent on your monitor, it won't look correct going to tape.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Director, "The Rough Cut"
http://www.theroughcutmovie.com

Now Posting "Good Eats" in HD for the Food Network

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Re: 720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by MPE on Mar 10, 2006 at 8:29:48 pm

It is likely you need a Tri-Level sync.



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Re: 720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by Neil Sadwelkar on Mar 12, 2006 at 6:39:09 am

I have tri-level sync connected. My house sync is tri-level. It also goes to 2 other FCPs, 2 Avids, 3 smoke, 2 flame, 1 backdraft, one telecine, one lustre. So its definitely there.

With the same FCP system I did manage to make a tape out to D-5 as 720p59.94 (that's what the deck was set to) Program was 90 mins. And FCP played out flawlwessly.

Neil

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Re: 720p to 1080p output. Strobing. And non-drop.
by MPE on Mar 13, 2006 at 2:22:58 pm

What is your tri-level sync set as?



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