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by GGParis on Feb 6, 2006 at 11:04:14 am

Anyone got any advice on DV Decks. Am about to cut a 35mm NTSC project. I will need to make timecoded outputs for sound editors and composers and neg cutters to match EDLs. Also do some split track outputs. Can a camera acting as a DV deck with Final Cut Pro achieve this or are we better off getting a proper DV Deck? Can you layback Timecode on DV tape or do you have to use up one of the audio tracks to do this? Any advice gratefully received. Thanks



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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by walter biscardi on Feb 6, 2006 at 4:37:37 pm

[GGParis] "Can a camera acting as a DV deck with Final Cut Pro achieve this or are we better off getting a proper DV Deck?"

A camera is never a good choice for any format of editing, always get a true VTR.


[GGParis] "Can you layback Timecode on DV tape or do you have to use up one of the audio tracks to do this?"

Yes, you can lay back matched timecode from your project to DV.


You can do a Search on this forum for lots of information about various DV decks as this topic has been discussed numerous times. I run the Sony DSR-11 DV/DVCAM and it's been a workhorse for me for going on three years now.

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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by Chris Poisson on Feb 6, 2006 at 6:03:36 pm

Walter,

Your second answer is confusing me. How can you get FCP to output timecode to tape? The only way I know of is to stripe the tape with the desired timecode and then assemble edit to tape, no?

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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by walter biscardi on Feb 6, 2006 at 6:58:21 pm

[Chris Poisson] "How can you get FCP to output timecode to tape? The only way I know of is to stripe the tape with the desired timecode and then assemble edit to tape, no?"


FCP 5.0.3 added this feature. You can now output TC via Firewire. I didn't even know about it until the Panasonic rep told me at a convention last week.

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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by Joe Murray on Feb 7, 2006 at 5:11:20 am

Interesting tip, Walter. Does this timecode-out-of-firewire work only when FCP is controlling a firewire deck or camera, or can it be converted for use with RS-422 devices?

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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by walter biscardi on Feb 7, 2006 at 12:21:12 pm

[Joe Murray] "Interesting tip, Walter. Does this timecode-out-of-firewire work only when FCP is controlling a firewire deck or camera, or can it be converted for use with RS-422 devices?"


I'm assuming Firewire devices only. I haven't tried this yet as I just found out about it at the conference last week. i"ll be testing this out with my 1200A next week when I get back to the office.

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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by GGParis on Feb 7, 2006 at 11:08:05 am

thanks walter, tell me, does this mean you can now both assemble edit and insert edit to a prestripped DV Tape in FCutPro?

For an assembly edit are you obliged to prestripe the whole tape, or just the first few minutes, or do you simply crash a timecode onto unstripped tapes?

My background is Avid based so I am used to prestripping the first few minutes of my betas with colour bars and tone, then assembly editing to a set start point on the tape.

As for the Deck I have heard good things about the Sony DSR-11. The few problems I see are that it has no Timecode display, or audio monitoring. I need a deck that can work equally afficiently in NTSC and PAL. I will check the back forums for more tips.

Thanks GGParis



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Re: Final Cut Pro Deck Advice
by Chris Poisson on Feb 7, 2006 at 6:46:53 pm

GG,

Yes you can assemble edit, but I don't think you can to a dsr 11 cause it does not have RS422 comtrol. You only need to stripe a minute or two.

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