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Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Pradip Patil on Jul 19, 2012 at 1:44:21 pm

Hi

I am trying to conform 25 fps files to 24fps using cinematools. Footage is shot with mark II as well as mark III.
Mark II footage is conformed as usual. but when conforming mark III nothing happens, It just puts them all in skipped folder.
I am using cinema tools 4.5

Any Solution. Couldn't find anything about this on the forum

Pradip Patil
Mumbai,India

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Dave LaRonde on Jul 19, 2012 at 2:31:48 pm

Is it still h.264 files? It needs to be ProRes 422.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Pradip Patil on Jul 19, 2012 at 2:39:08 pm

Dave,

But I have successfully done this on H.264 files earlier, those were shot on MARK II.
This time I have mark II & mark III mixed footage. I have tried qtchange demo. It shows that it has conformed to 24 fps but after log & transfer in fcp those mark III files still show 25 fps timecode.

I just had a look at log file generated by cinmeatools. it says
"Skipped -- The movie has temporal compression EX4C3894.MOV"

Pradip Patil
Mumbai,India

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Dave LaRonde on Jul 19, 2012 at 2:41:38 pm

[Pradip Patil] "I just had a look at log file generated by cinmeatools. it says
"Skipped -- The movie has temporal compression EX4C3894.MOV""

Uh-huh. That particular error message is precisely why you need to convert h.264 footage to ProRes 422. You should have been doing it from the very beginning.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Bouke Vahl on Jul 19, 2012 at 2:56:06 pm

I agree with Dave, and i'm pretty sure you have not succeeded on other times.
However, It does not HAVE to be ProRes.
Any I frame only codec will be fine.

For QTchange, it cannot conform to another FPS, no matter the codec. What QTchange can do is set the playback FPS, not the 'original' FPS. (This is in the manual btw...)
(test it with an insane value)

hth,

Bouke

http://www.videotoolshed.com/
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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Pradip Patil on Jul 19, 2012 at 3:54:33 pm

Here are the two screen shots. 1st one is Mark II file, you can see that it allows me to conform.And then with canon's latest plugin for FCP, I can L&T the files without any trouble.

The 2nd one is from mark III where conform is disabled.

Pradip Patil
Mumbai,India

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Pradip Patil on Jul 19, 2012 at 2:55:49 pm

Dave

I am still in the beginning phase of the project. I just did what u said. First transferred the file using log & transfer and then conformed it 24 fps. ButI still get the timecode increment from 00 to 24 (that is for the mark III files , mark II files have 00 to 23 only). Will this be a problem later on for EDLs or XMLs?

What do people generally do about it?

Pradip Patil
Mumbai,India

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Dave LaRonde on Jul 20, 2012 at 2:58:15 pm

I'm beginning to suspect you problem may be caused by Quicktime. Do you run the highly-recommended QT7, or the problem-filled QTX?

QT7Pro should be an optional install on your FCS installation disks. You can then delete QTX, or if you want to keep it, give it a different file name so the OS doesn't see it.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Pradip Patil on Jul 20, 2012 at 5:42:35 pm

Thanks Dave.

I got 5DtoRGB batch, so I guess this issue is not a problem as of now.
But I willl do what you have suggested. I have both QT 7 & QTX.

Pradip Patil
Mumbai,India

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Dave LaRonde on Jul 23, 2012 at 3:07:01 pm

I hope the change to QT 7 helps.

But 5D Mk III footage is problematic in other applications, too: an After Effects user experienced a similar Mk II okay - Mk II bad type of problem. But he found a fix, and it might apply to you:

"I have the CineForm codec installed with the GoPro Studio Premium software.

"After removing the file "CFHD_MOV_Importer.bundle" (I've put it temporarily on the desktop) I can now import the Canon 5D Mark III without problems.
"The file is located in: \Library\Application Support\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS6\MediaCore"

Obviously, we're talking about two different applications. But if you also have a GoPro, you might want to investigate.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: Cinema Tools won't conform files shot with MARK III
by Justin R. Barnes on Feb 4, 2013 at 6:30:01 pm

Hello,

I have a similar issue with the MK3 footage. Start of day I tried to cinema tools a few clips from 60fps to 24. I usually do this in its H.264 form and after the FPS conform I then take it into Mpeg streamclip.

Middle of the day I installed a AVCCAMImporter plugin so I can look at .MTS footage from my friends Sony handycam pain in the A$$.

End of day and restart after restart Cinema Tools doesnt want to conform these 60fps MK3 files at all.

so do I need a new plugin? Am I screwed or did I screw up with the installation of that AVCCAMImporter plugin?

And I converted 1 of these clips in mpeg to prores422 and cinema tools wont recognize the clip.

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