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Greg GoldenHDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 3:42:37 pm

Quite confused and unsure if this is a BlackMagic Design or Final Cut forum question. I've researched a good bit on both boards.

System is Mac Pro running 10.6.7 with 2 X 2.4GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon and 12 GB or RAM.
Decklink Studio
Final Cut Pro 7.03
No BlackMagic Design driver updates done since the install in August 2010. FCP is up to date.

Problem: I cannot get 1080p output to display on an external 42" LG 1080p monitor. I don't need a calibrated display -- just something large for clients to see their projects. I have just acquired this monitor. I am selecting every possible external video choice within Final Cut, and the only ONES that work are Video Playback NTSC 8-bit, 10-bit or RGB 10-bit. The HD video on the timeline looks horrible as expected. It will play with full motion.

External video is set to 'All Frames"

Every other HD Blackmagic setting causes the LG 42" monitor to show a "no signal" message.

Is there something obvious that I should be doing that I am not?

I used a 23" HDMI-capable computer monitor in this role in September 2010 and was successful seeing full motion in nice quality. I am having no success now. The same settings tried then don't work today.

Thank you. I had great expectations but am now a little bummed today.

Greg Golden


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Victor PerezRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 4:33:15 pm

What Blackmagic card do you have. Some of their lower end cards only play a minimal number of 1080p signals. What is the setting output on your Blackmagic card. If you see an SD signal with FCP in HD then you might have the card in SD display mode in the cards preferences, regardless of what is set in FCP.

FCP sets what signal is sent out to the card. The card sets what signal is sent out to your external monitor.

Hope that helps.

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Chris TompkinsRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 5:43:03 pm

Some HDMI input monitors are finicky and takes a second or a couple of tries to get the signal to start playing thru.

Can you play 720p out to the monitor?

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Greg GoldenRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 6:24:07 pm

I tried a 720p sequence with some 720p footage and, no, I only see a still frame. When I stop the playhead that frame updates to the final frame played.

I went through all of this using SD footage and a broadcast monitor 6 or 7 years ago and it was a simple checkbox that needed a mark in it. This isn't fun.

Thanks for any ideas.

Greg Golden


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Greg GoldenRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 6:22:04 pm

If have the Blackmagic Design Decklink Studio with the HDMI in/out card. I just updated to the newest driver/software. I get GREAT still frames on it when the playhead is parked. I get no moving images at all.

As for the video output setting within FCP, I've tried a ton of them -- everything that I'd think could possibly work (with the exception of 2K and Red choices). Using NTSC 720X486 settings I DO see moving video, but it is horribly blocky.

All Frames is checked. I've tried Single Frame and "OFF" and still no moving images during playback.

Greg Golden


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Chris TompkinsRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 6:33:13 pm

Did you try this setting in FCP:




A/V settings, Video Playback.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Greg GoldenRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 7:24:05 pm

Chris, you are a genius. Next time I'm in Atlanta I owe you a Venti Pike Place at Starbucks (or something similar). I wouldn't have guessed that setting (1080i) was the answer, so I never tried it.

But now the Canvas freezes and gives me a still image when the playhead is running. Go figure... I can live with that if I need to.

Thanks much!

Greg Golden


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Andrew KimeryRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 4, 2011 at 8:04:53 pm

In FCP go to you Audio/Video Settings, then the A/V Devices tab. If Mirror on Desktop is checked you should get simultaneous playback on your external monitor as well as on your Canvas in FCP.


-Andrew

3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
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Greg GoldenRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 5, 2011 at 7:22:23 pm

Thank you, Andrew. You were exactly right. That checkbox HAD been checked at one time for another setting, but I guess it didn't remain so when I was trying other options. I'm back in business again. And I appreciate your wisdom.

Greg Golden
Cottage Hill Baptist Church
Mobile, Alabama

Greg Golden


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Andrew KimeryRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP
by on May 5, 2011 at 10:24:03 pm

No sweat, Greg. A helping hand is what the community is about.


-Andrew

3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1)



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Scott BihlRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP/SDI
by on Jul 13, 2012 at 8:46:25 pm

I have an SDI only version for Black Magic card and all of a sudden I get no output from Final Cut to my monitor. Changed nothing no, updates, etc.
The card is putting out a signal because my 17 in Panasonic pro monitor sees a signal (1080i, 59.94) but that is not what is set in my FCP preferences. It simply will not switch to 720P 25 ANYTHING. The FCP window says it it is changed but it does not change the signal.
When using BMD's own capture software, it does change, but there is no 720P 25. Besides, I'm not capturing, I'm just playing back. Worked fine for months now I'm stumped...

Any help here?


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Michael GissingRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP/SDI
by on Jul 13, 2012 at 11:19:57 pm

Your Easy Setup should match the sequence setup. If they don't then you don't get moving pics via any I/O card just a still image.


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Scott BihlRe: HDMI monitoring from FCP/SDI
by on Jul 13, 2012 at 11:24:05 pm

They ARE matched.
The BMD output setting in FCP is the same as the sequence, but the card is only putting out 1080i 50 to the monitor. It refuses to switch in FCP.

Scott


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