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Wayne MarxPlugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 9:35:57 pm

Hi there,

I have some locked off HD interview material that I'd like to appear
as if it were shot handheld.

Is there a plugin for FCP [or Motion, at the worst] that will help
emulate a gentle floating, 'breating' camera. I'm not looking for anything extreme - just something subtle.

Thanks,

Wayne


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Thomas Morter-LaingRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:20:45 pm

Do I sense a request for a magic plugin because of lack of prior planning? I've been told off on here for less....

:D
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Wayne MarxRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:27:28 pm

Tom,

You score a 10 for snark and a zero for helpfulness.

Thanks for playing.

Wayne


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David Roth WeissRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:35:45 pm

Oh goodie, maybe I'll get some "helpfulness" points...

Scale the footage up about 15% Wayne, that's necessary because your edges wil give away what comes next if you don't.

Now, keyframe subtle random movements over time in the Motion tab on both the X and Y axis. It'll take you a while to get it to look natural, but you find a rhythm you'll find its pretty easy.

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Richard SanchezRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:44:39 pm

I'd recommend doing this in After Effects. Drop your clip into the timeline and control click the position parameters. This will allow you to type an expression. You want to type wiggle(10,1) 10 is the amount of wiggle, 1 is the frequency. So, once a second it will wiggle by 10 pixels. (I might be backwards on that, but it'll be easy to tell once you know the rule behind it) That's how I'd do it. Less manual labor, and it's smoother looking than in FCP.

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Matt CallacRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:54:32 pm

[Richard Sanchez] "(I might be backwards on that"

Yes, you are backwards. first number is frequency. wiggle(1,10) would be every second wiggle 10 pixels.

and this is how I'd do it as well. Much faster, and much more organic result. You'll still have to mess around with the numbers to get the exact look you're wanting. Also you'll need to scale your footage up a bit to hide edges, as david already mentioned.

-mattyc


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Wayne MarxRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:55:27 pm

Full marks for David & Richard, thanks.

Although AE is the right tool for this job, I think I'm going to have to do it Old School as per David's suggestion.

My only hesitation was that I couldn't find a way to Smooth the keyframes in the 'Center' settings [as you can with the Scale setting, hence wanting a plug-in.

But a short test actually provided some good results, so thanks for the suggestions gents.

Wayne


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Wayne MarxRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56:34 pm

Thanks to you, too, Matt.

Wayne


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Matt CallacRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 11:04:43 pm

[Wayne Marx] "My only hesitation was that I couldn't find a way to Smooth the keyframes in the 'Center' settings [as you can with the Scale setting, hence wanting a plug-in."

you do that in the canvas window. If you select the layer you are moving..click the keyframe you want to smooth..right click and select ease in/ ease out from the menu..then you'll have handles to adjust your ease amount.

once you have keyframes you like you can always send to motion project. FCP keyframe easing isn't the greatest. It works for some things...but for anything bordering on more than basic I'd port it to motion..then you can modify your keyframes on a graph view.

-mattyc


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matthew bradshawRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 11:11:23 pm

Check the Motion forum, Motion has an easy to use Random Behaviour that should do the trick.
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Wayne MarxRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 1, 2011 at 11:17:15 pm

Matt,

Thanks for reminding me about the Canvas settings.

And thanks to you, too, [other] Matt.

Wayne


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Scott SheriffRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 2, 2011 at 12:05:37 am

You might want to look at the 'earthquake' filter in FCP.
You might be able to tweak that to look like HH.

Scott Sheriff
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Roger BoltonRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 2, 2011 at 5:28:15 am

Hi, we have a Camera Shake plugin as part of CoreMelt "Gadget" which does both gentle float and shake with separate parameters for both.

http://www.coremelt.com/docs/V2/C2%20Gadget%20-%20Editors%20Tools/index.htm...

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Wayne MarxRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 2, 2011 at 11:32:17 am

Great, thanks Roger,

Wayne


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matthew bradshawRe: Plugin to Emulate Handheld Footage???
by on Feb 2, 2011 at 1:54:59 pm

I can't think quite how but couldn't you stabilize some hand-held footage and then apply those settings to some non-hand-held footage and get the reverse effect?
Matt.



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