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Nace ZavrlOpinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 8, 2010 at 8:57:38 pm

I am looking to upgrade from my old dual-core iMac 24' to the new Mac Pro and was thinking of the following specs.

Mac Pro
- 6-core 3.33 GHz processor
- 12 GB of RAM
- Intel X25-M SSD 80 GB boot drive, 1 TB Data drive, 2x WD RE3 1 TB in RAID 0
- ATI Radeon 5770

As I don't do broadcast work, I'm not planning on getting a reference video monitor just yet, so I was thinking of the HP LP2475w computer monitors (calibrated of course).

As I shoot mostly on the Canon XH A1 and 5D Mark II, I do not need a capture card just yet, because the tape footage goes straight to the Mac via FireWire 800 and to ProRes immediatly.

For audio monitoring, I'm leaning towards the Genelec 6010a with the 5040 subwoofer and the Apogee Duet interface.

To make editing a bit easier, I'm also getting the Wacom Intuos4 tablet.

I will back up everything to external eSATA or FireWire drives.

Is this a good setup for the diverse stuff I do (video editing, audio voiceovers, photo editing, ...) ?


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Shane RossRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 8, 2010 at 10:21:25 pm

You only need ONE of the Dreamcolor monitors...they are pretty expensive. People use them in place of broadcast monitors. For regular computer monitors, look at Dell 22"...each one runs around $300.

Shane



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Chris TompkinsRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 8, 2010 at 10:35:21 pm

Don't get a subwoofer. You should have a pair of good speaker for accurate monitoring.

Chris Tompkins
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Jeremy GarchowRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 8, 2010 at 11:10:08 pm

You can save your money on the 80GB SSD drive as well.


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Nace ZavrlRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 7:20:01 am

And which speakers do you recommend?

Thanks,
Nace


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Craig AlanRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 1:34:36 am

Hi Shane,

Which Dell model do you recommend?

OSX 10.5.7; MAC Book PRO (EARLY 2008); Camcorders: Sony Z7U, Canon HV30, Sony vx2000/PD170, Canon xl2; Pana, Sony, and Canon consumer cams; FCP certified; write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.


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Nace ZavrlRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 7:30:51 am

I was actually looking at the non-Dreamcolor HP LP2475w, which runs for about 550$, whereas the LP2480zx Dreamcolor runs for 2400$.
Will the LP2475w have what it takes to be a good reference monitor replacement for editing or should I really look towards the higher-end Dreamcolor? Will the difference even be worth the extra 2000$?

Thanks,
Nace


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Shane RossRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 7:34:15 am

$550 for a monitor is a tad much lately. A good 22" Dell will do well. What model? Just go to the Dell Professional section of the dell site and look at the 22" models. I have two 24" models and they are too big. 2408. Wishing for two 22"ers now.

[Nace Zavrl] "Will the LP2475w have what it takes to be a good reference monitor replacement for editing or should I really look towards the higher-end Dreamcolor?"

NO...that will be a good computer display. The extra $2000 is what makes the Dreamcolor work so well...

Shane



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Nace ZavrlRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 7:43:16 am

Thanks for the clarification Shane,

So what kind of setup do you propose, 2x Dell 22'' and the Dreamcolor? I doubt my budget would allow for the Dreamcolor, but thanks anyways.

Nace,


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Shane RossRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 7:47:36 am

Well, My experience with the Dreamcolor is nil. I don't know how well it would do without a capture card feeding it a signal. You'd have to run two graphics cards to get a signal to three monitors, and two cards can mess up a few things in FCP, definately in Motion and Color. They have components that rely on the graphics card, and two will confuse it.

Jeremy Garchow uses one...wait for him to respond.

Shane



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adam taylorRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 11:12:31 am

for audio monitors - i swear by the PMC DB1SA models.

I have put them in direct comparison with several other well known brands and i found these to be the most accurate sounding monitor for the price.

adam

Adam Taylor
Video Editor/Audio Mixer/ Compositor/Motion GFX/Barista
Character Options Ltd
Oldham, UK

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Jeremy GarchowRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 12:39:16 pm

The dremcolor is an awesome option for 10bit video monitoring. But along with it you need a capture card, an AJA HDP2 and the calibration tool. I have an article here on the cow about it.

The dremcolor setup done right will run you about 3 grand plus the cost of an SDI capture/output device.
The dremcolor


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BJ AhlenRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 2:16:59 pm

The Apogee Duet is totally great in sound, ergonomics (big knob and on screen mixer), and very good micpres with 48V phantom power.

The less expensive Genelecs (<$2K/pair) I find to sound too "pleasant."

That's a problem when mixing and mastering, because it can make you think you've got great sound even as your clients wonder if you need a hearing aid.

Get a pair of Alesis M1 Active mk2 Biamp Monitors for $299 + a pair of Auralex MoPads ($38) to isolate them from whatever they are standing on + a pair of 1/4" signal cables to connect to the Duet.

The monitors should ideally be at ear level to avoid a nasty bass bump from the surface they're on, but even just the little raise from the MoPads will help some. Keep them at least a foot from the back wall also.

Don't snicker at the low price of these monitors, they are very very good for this purpose, and they're not tiring to listen to, which is important at the end of a long day.


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Nace ZavrlRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 2:37:09 pm

Thanks for the reply,

I once heard the M1 Active MKII and they sounded very neutral and clear, but the problem is my workspace isn't really fit for monitors of that size, that's why I'm leaning towards the smaller Genelecs, which I see are getting mixed opinions.

I was also looking at the Genelec 8020b combined with the M-Audio ProFire 610. Are the 8020b worth the extra price and how does the interface compare to the Duet?

Nace,


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Patrice FreymondRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 3:30:01 pm

Although I own a pair of Genelecs I agree that they sound too nice and would back up the choice of PMC's. Also, ditch the sub from your budget as you will get tired from all this overwhelming bass when you edit.

Pat



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BJ AhlenRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 4:16:01 pm

The M-Audio ProFire 610 sounds OK and would save you $100.

But the sound isn't at the Duet level, and you need a 16"x12" space to park it within reach (in practice you'd probably have to put it somewhere else and get a separate line level volume knob for $75-$100, which would of couorse negate the savings).

It is also reputed to have buggy drivers, which sounds likely considering the experience I had with my M-Audio FW410, which you just reminded me to pull out of the closet for disposal on eBay.

Firewire interfaces are a royal, nay imperial, pain when the drivers aren't great (like the Duet drivers are, perhaps because they only support OS X nowadays). Do you really want to use language your mother wouldn't approve of?


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Nace ZavrlRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 5:53:44 pm

Thanks so much for the response,

So I guess I will go for the Duet. But how can I connect the monitor to the Duet, if the monitor only has an XLR input? Go for a different monitor?

Nace,


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BJ AhlenRe: Opinion about Mac Pro for photo/video/audio stuff
by on Aug 9, 2010 at 7:16:44 pm

The Alesis monitors have a combo connector that allows you to plug in either an XLR or a 1/4" TRS plug.

If you get another monitor with XLR-only, you just need a Male 1/4" TRS to Male XLR cable, less than $6 for a 3 ft. length at monoprice.com (which is a good supplier with quality products).

If you really need the most compact monitors, look at Blue Sky's midrange monitors.

They cost more than 3x as much as the Alesis M1s, but they are somewhat comparable in sound quality.

Blue Sky's higher end monitors are even used at Lucasfilm.


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