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Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Kamal Bayy on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:16:08 pm

Hi there i created a movie using my Panasonic HVX-200 and a clip that is a minute turns out to be almost a 1gb file. When i pull this file into After Effects I render the files with effects then transfer them into FCP 5. I have to re-render them when putting them into the timeline in FCP. The FCP rendering is taking up to an hour and a half to complete a 1 minute clip ?!?!?!?? The clips are still at their 1 gb total but this is just outrageous for how long this program wants me to wait... on top of this every time that i drag the clip on the timeline it tells me that the file is un-rendered and i have to re-render it .... again!
Any help I can get real quick would be great, I need to finish this project!!!!

Thank you ,

Kamal
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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Shane Ross on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:19:03 pm

Well, what codec did you export is as out of AE? If you didn't export it back as DVCPRO HD with the same frame rate then you will have to render.

You have to render every time the CLIP settings don't match the SEQUENCE settings.



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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Kamal Bayy on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:36:39 pm

Thank you for your response Shane
I am actually going into file > export > quick time movie and i export it as that?
How would I export it as a DVCPRO HD ?

Kamal

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Shane Ross on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:38:02 pm

[Kamal Bayy] "I am actually going into file > export > quick time movie and i export it as that? "

Quicktime is a container...there are DOZENS of codecs that can be in that QT container. After Effects defaults to the ANIMATION codec. You have to go into the OPTIONS when you export and change it to DVCPRO HD.



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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Kamal Bayy on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:44:25 pm

I see:
- DV/DVCPRO - NTSC
- DVCPRO - PAL
- DVCPRO 50 - NTSC
- DVCPRO 50 - PAL

But i do not see a DVCPRO HD ?

Kamal

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Shane Ross on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:48:35 pm

It should be below DVCPRO 50. What version of FCP are you running? Does the machine that you are using AE on have FCP installed?



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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Kamal Bayy on Sep 11, 2009 at 9:51:44 pm

I'm running Final Cut Pro 5
And i'm using AE CS4
I just looked into the FCP 5 and i see the DVCPRO HD conversion
But i do not see it when i try to export within After Effects

Kamal

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Kamal Bayy on Sep 11, 2009 at 11:11:40 pm

does anyone know how to solve this????

Kamal

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Shane Ross on Sep 11, 2009 at 11:14:03 pm

Sorry, I don't have AE on my system.



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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by John Pale on Sep 12, 2009 at 4:31:56 am

Is your installed version of AE on the same system as FCP?
The DVCPRO HD codec is installed by FCP. It won't be available on a system without it.



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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Arnie Schlissel on Sep 12, 2009 at 4:30:34 am

[Kamal Bayy] "does anyone know how to solve this????"

A lot of people on this forum do this all the time. It's not that hard, but to tell you how to do it in a forum post is a bit like writing a novella. Besides, the specific information you need is in the tutorials & help files that come with FCP and AE.

[Kamal Bayy] "I am actually going into file > export > quick time movie and i export it as that?"

You don't export from the file menu with AE, you use the render queue.

The render queue allows you to use any codec installed on your Mac. DVCPro HD should be listed there.

Consult the AE docs on how to queue a comp and how to find & use the various controls & features of the queue.

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Rafael Amador on Sep 12, 2009 at 7:18:52 am

As John points, the codec must be installed otherwise you couldn't read neither export DVCProHD.
It sounds more an AE issue. trash the AE preferences.
You should also see which kind of codec you are using with FC. A one minute DVCProHD file it can not take 1 GB.
Pic the papers and read a bit about workflow, codecs, exports,..
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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Kamal Bayy on Sep 13, 2009 at 8:19:41 pm

thank you but is there a way that i can reduce the size of the file when using the render queue without reducing the file quality?

kamal

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by David Roth Weiss on Sep 13, 2009 at 8:39:27 pm

[Kamal Bayy] "is there a way that i can reduce the size of the file when using the render queue without reducing the file quality? "

Kamal,

Quality is directly proportional to the amount of information contained in a file, and more information means increased file size.

If you render at a lower resolution you can reduce both file size and render time, but quality will also be reduced accordingly.

The laws of psychics and math do apply...

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Re: Faster Rendering FCP?!???!?
by Arnie Schlissel on Sep 15, 2009 at 4:21:54 am

[David Roth Weiss] "The laws of psychics and math do apply..."

Darn!

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