FCP 7 - Improved render management?
by Chi-Ho Lee
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Sep 10, 2009 at 4:21:58 pm
I'm doing some light editing on 7 and have been playing with some rendered clips....
I rendered a speed change on V2 at 100% opacity. I have a clip underneath on V1. I can turn on/off visibility on V1 and clip on V2 stayed rendered. Is this new? Can't remember how it was on 6.
I can trim clip underneath the rendered clip on V1 and the clip on V2 stayed rendered. Is this new?
I can slide the rendered clip on V2 with a clip underneath on V1 - and the rendered clip stayed rendered. Is this new?
Thanks,
CHL
Chi-Ho Lee
Film & Television Editor
Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
www.chiholee.com
Improved render management
Render management enhancements reduce the need to re-render as you trim clips, move media, and perform a wide range of other functions. This means you can work more efficiently as you experiment with creative options.
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Shane Ross on Sep 10, 2009 at 5:14:01 pm
[Chi-Ho Lee]"I can turn on/off visibility on V1 and clip on V2 stayed rendered. Is this new?"
Sorry...I cannot replicate that behavior. Jeremy, can you?
I have clips on V1, and text on V5. I render the text....then turn off visibility on V5...get the usual warning....then turn it back on...and I have to re-render.
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Shane Ross on Sep 10, 2009 at 5:38:26 pm
OK...what are you guys doing EXACTLY? Because I cannot replicate this. I took a clip, put it on V2, with a clip on V1. I added a Gaussian Blur to the clip on V2, rendered. Then I turned off the V2 track visibility. Got the same error. Turned it back on....the clip was unrendered. No opacity, no alpha channel, no text.
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Chi-Ho Lee on Sep 10, 2009 at 5:37:15 pm
Yes, what Jeremy said. Cuz your text has an alpha, that won't work. But try a regular clip with a filter and turn off the lower tracks, not the higher track that contains the rendered clip.
So, Jeremy - is this a new behavior? Was this possible back in 6?
CHL
Chi-Ho Lee
Film & Television Editor
Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
www.chiholee.com
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Shane Ross on Sep 10, 2009 at 5:42:17 pm
Wait...turning off the LOWER tracks? The ones BELOW the clip you have rendered? Why on earth would that unrender your footage on the higher tracks? I see that it does...but WHY?
And sorry, but I have a clip on V3 now, with BLUR, one on V2, with BLUR. I turn off V2 and...unrendered. I turn back on V2...still unrendered. Is there a system or user setting somewhere for this behavior?
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Shane Ross on Sep 10, 2009 at 5:57:43 pm
[Jeremy Garchow]"Take the blur off of v2 and just keep it on v3. Render. you can now trim underneath v3 and physically move v3 without it becoming unrendered. "
Sorry. Again, I cannot replicate this behavior. I add blur to clip on V3...nothing to clip on V1. I render. I turn off visibility on V1...the clip becomes unrendered. I UNDO...it's fine. I move the rendered clip anywhere...it becomes unrendered.
UNLIMITED RT in my RT settings...what is your secret?
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Chi-Ho Lee on Sep 10, 2009 at 6:40:46 pm
Ok Shane,
I think the problem is your blur filter. I used the directional blur which is FxPlug and that didn't work. I tried a speed change and that worked. And I tried the CC 3Way and that worked - and this is not a FXplug. I also tried a basic border and old gaussian blur - both worked - both not FXplug.
So I think that's the issue - FXPlug won't work, older filters and non FXPlug - render improvements...
CHL
Chi-Ho Lee
Film & Television Editor
Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
www.chiholee.com
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Shane Ross on Sep 10, 2009 at 6:47:46 pm
[Chi-Ho Lee]"FXPlug won't work, older filters and non FXPlug - render improvements... "
OH-HO! NOW I can replicate what you are seeing. I added a Gaussian Blur...non FxPlug, and moved that all over, and turned off visibility of the tracks below and it stayed rendered.
OK, a small step in the right direction...but there are a LOT of FXPlug plugins...
Still, I feel better now that I can replicate what you are seeing.
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by david bogie on Sep 10, 2009 at 10:59:15 pm
Interesting thread but why isn't there a simple way to tell what will and what will not require rerendering?
I still don't understand why FCP isn't smart enough to be able to know when something needs to be rerendered or just relinked. Even Media 100, way back in 1995, could figure that out. but it only understood two tracks of video.
Re: FCP 7 - Improved render management? by Alan Lacey on Sep 11, 2009 at 3:35:52 pm
And my beloved and long extinct Fast601 not only behaved very intelligently with render files, it did it all in the backround while you were editing away!
