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by Jason Brown on Sep 1, 2009 at 1:33:43 am

Hey Guys,

logging footage...set in, set out...make subclip. What is a quick way to (keyboard) make the viewer active again to press spacebar to play? Can't find it anywhere in manual or online in a quick search.

-Jason

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Arnie Schlissel on Sep 1, 2009 at 2:50:10 am

Q will toggle between the 2 windows.

Arnie

Post production is not an afterthought!
http://www.arniepix.com/

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Jason Brown on Sep 1, 2009 at 2:54:52 am

I've remapped Q to go to in...like my AVID editing days. What is the shortcut?

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Jason Brown on Sep 1, 2009 at 2:58:29 am

I reset my keyboard to default and Q is set to toggle windows (viewer and canvas...what I want is to toggle viewer and browser)

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Dan Monro on Sep 1, 2009 at 3:37:42 am

Viewer is "command" + 1
Browser is "Command" + 4

Timeline is "Command" + 3
Canvas is "Command" + 2
Log & Capture is "Command" + 8

"Command" + any other number gives you various things. Try 'em...

Dan Monro
FCP, Avid, AfterFX, Atlanta
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2 GB ram
Mac OS X 10.5.7
GeForce 8600M GT Final Cut Pro 6.0.5 Quicktime 7.6



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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Arnie Schlissel on Sep 1, 2009 at 12:42:22 pm

Sorry, I didn't read your 1st post that well.

Command-4 is the browser, command-1 is the viewer.

Arnie

Post production is not an afterthought!
http://www.arniepix.com/

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Jason Brown on Sep 1, 2009 at 12:53:24 pm

I knew that shortcut...but it opens and closes those windows...I'm just looking for a simple toggle...

Those keys will make that window active...but if it's already active, it closes the window...just a little clunky for what I'm wanting.

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Tom Wolsky on Sep 1, 2009 at 1:30:15 pm

This application does not work the way you are used to. There is no single key shortcut for what you want. Put in a feature request if you like. After you make a subclip in the viewer the browser is automatically made the active window. Cmd-1 to return to the viewer is the function that's built into the application. Any single key in the browser will act as if you're trying to select an item with that name, just like inside a folder at the finder level. You could designate a single key to make the Viewer active, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs "Complete Training for FCP6," "Basic Training for FCS2" and "Final Cut Express Made Easy"
Author: "Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials" and "Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop"

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Jason Brown on Sep 1, 2009 at 1:41:55 pm

I understand...it's because of coming from a PC background. Tab on an PC AVID will do what I'm trying to do...I'm still trying to learn how all this works. It is much different!

-Jason

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Tom Wolsky on Sep 1, 2009 at 1:47:02 pm

The tab key takes you to the next addressable window. In the browser if you're in log notes for instance, the tab key takes you to the next column in which you can enter information. In the viewer or canvas the tab key toggles to and between duration and current time boxes. Same in the timeline.


All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs "Complete Training for FCP6," "Basic Training for FCS2" and "Final Cut Express Made Easy"
Author: "Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials" and "Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop"

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Dan Monro on Sep 1, 2009 at 2:17:46 pm

Hey Jason,

I'm coming from that same PC Avid background. If I understand your question, I think Command + 1 will work;

You're in the viewer, mark an in, mark an out, command "u" to make a subclip
Now you're in the browser with the clip name highlighted, you type the name hit return , closes clip name but browser is still active,
Hit command 1 and you're back in the viewer, hit spacebar and play.

Not trying to be patronizing here, just wondering if this is the workflow you're talking about, The above works for me - it's one of the workflows that I brought with me from Avid.

Hope it helps,
D

Dan Monro
FCP, Avid, AfterFX, Atlanta
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2 GB ram
Mac OS X 10.5.7
GeForce 8600M GT Final Cut Pro 6.0.5 Quicktime 7.6



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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Jason Brown on Sep 1, 2009 at 7:11:49 pm

Dan,

exactly the same workflow...capturing from HDV tape as one clip and then subclipping it out is a crappy workflow, but seems to be the only way to use FCP and HDV...

I'd love to chat more about some workflow things you've setup (keyboard, etc) coming from AVID.

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Dan Monro on Sep 1, 2009 at 7:21:29 pm

Happy to. Why don't you e-mail me offlist so we don't clog up the system.
dan.monro@turner.com or dmonro@mac.com. I still work on both systems, and I still like things about Avid better, but I definitely prefer FCP for that actual cutting part.

E-mail me, we'll talk...

Dan Monro
FCP, Avid, AfterFX, Atlanta
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2 GB ram
Mac OS X 10.5.7
GeForce 8600M GT Final Cut Pro 6.0.5 Quicktime 7.6



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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Tom Wolsky on Sep 1, 2009 at 7:56:18 pm

HDV capture from tape should be breaking the shots at each shot change. Is that not working for you? Are you subclipping down further from that? Probably not a good workflow as you may cut it too tight and then it's a pain to remove.


All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs "Complete Training for FCP6," "Basic Training for FCS2" and "Final Cut Express Made Easy"
Author: "Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials" and "Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop"

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Re: quick toggle between viewer and browser
by Jason Brown on Sep 3, 2009 at 2:35:50 pm

Hey Tom,

It may have been...but I'm still learning. I shot in HDV...was digitizing from a Sony deck we have...but didn't realize that because we were shooting on a Canon XL-H1 that HDV won't playback from the sony deck. It also won't recognize breaks. I haven't tried to digitize a full HDV tape from the camera since I figured that out, but I'm guessing it will work.

As far as not having handles. My workflow has been to subclip...then remove subclip bounds, but it keeps in and out points which give me all the handles I need.

-Jason

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