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Limiting all audio together
by Neal Fox on Jul 3, 2009 at 6:18:21 pm

Hello.

I've got about 6 or 7 audio tracks. All are in many pieces, not one continuous audio for the whole movie.
I know I can add a limiter to each track but that would take a lot of work and a lot of filters.

Is there a way, as in sound production work, to just put one limiter over the main audio out bus?

I thought about saving the entire audio mix as an aiff, then fixing it up in Logic and reimporting it to FCP, but I'm concerned that it will go out of sync. It's an 80 minute movie.

Thanks.


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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Jaap Verdenius on Jul 3, 2009 at 6:35:20 pm

Nest the sequence (alt-C) and apply limiter to the nest.

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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Neal Fox on Jul 3, 2009 at 10:33:06 pm

Ah. I was wondering about nesting. So you can apply a filter to a nest. Great.
I was starting to try that out but couldn't get the nesting to happen right.
I was trying to just nest all the audio tracks but it kept selecting some of the associated video tracks to nest as well.

I couldn't figure out how to unselect the video and just keep the audio selected to nest.



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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Baz Leffler on Jul 4, 2009 at 1:57:29 am

If you apply a limiter to a whole mixed track then any over limit on a single item (eg an FX bang) will cause the whole track to be limited when an over limit occurs. This can be most detrimental to the final mix. Remember limiters are not just mere 'clippers'.

Ideally you should put limiters on individual tracks so as not to cause this problem.

Baz

What would I do without the 'UNDO' button!!!!

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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Jaap Verdenius on Jul 4, 2009 at 7:59:43 am

If you want just the audio selected you should press alt during selecting.

Baz is right of course - you should do this type of limiting only after you dealt with the underlying tracks.

Jaap



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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Michael Gissing on Jul 4, 2009 at 8:43:51 am


Bottom line is that if you think you can mix audio by banging a peak limiter on a nest, then you seriously need to send the audio to a pro. You don't just slam one 3wayCC on all your shots and hope they look right do you?



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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Neal Fox on Jul 4, 2009 at 12:56:09 pm

Thanks for all the help.

Actually, I'm in the audio business so putting a limiter on the output master bus is not a problem for me. I've got what is basically a 90 minute concert. The audience, vocals and music tracks are all on separate tracks and have been already balanced and EQd to taste. But I'd like to get some more bang out of the whole mix without going over. That's the reason for the limiter.

I've tried the option click to select only the audio tracks but it still selects the video that goes with it. Is there a way to do this? Or am I trying to do something that doesn't matter. Should I just next the whole thing and not worry about it?

Thanks.

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Re: Limiting all audio together
by Jaap Verdenius on Jul 4, 2009 at 2:47:35 pm

You have to drag over the audio clips in the timeline while holding leftmouse option key pressed. It should work, I do this a couple of 100 times every day.

Jaap

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