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180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?

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Timothy Allen180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 7:02:55 am

Perhaps, this isn't the right place to post this, but I didn't see a "Quicktime" forum.

Why must this be so difficult??

I shot a bunch of footage on the EX1 + Redrock Micro M2. Of course, all of my footage is upside down. So with QuickTime Pro I can go into the visual settings of the footage and rotate 180˚. Plays find and dandy all right-side-up in QuickTime. I import the footage into Final Cut, and it's upside down! What the deal is?

Anybody have a good solution to rotating footage? I know I can do it inside final cut, but that counts as an effect. Once I start adding other stuff to it - letterbox, color correction, venetting, etc. - I have to start rendering it! I'd rather not have my comp processing the upside footage while I'm editing.

Any suggestions?


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adam taylorRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 9:55:11 am

why "of course its upside down"?? unless you held the camera upside, of course!

anyways - you can select a clip in fcp - and in the browser window hit Motion. Then you can rotate your clip however you want. Then if you select the clip and copy it you can then select every other upside down clip, and Paste Attributes, when the options box appears check just the option you want and hit enter.

This also means you could do all your rotations and letterboxing etc on a single clip and in one fell swoop copy the entire look to every other clip.

adam

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Alex ElkinsRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 3:03:55 pm

Did you click 'Save' when you did your rotation in QT? That might have an effect.


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Andreas KielRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 4:02:32 pm

Final Cut ignores all "effect settings" done in QuickTime Player unless you export the movie(s) from QuickTime Player.
You can use the Motion Tab in Final Cut, but it's not the fastet filter. You should use the "Flop" filter with settings to "Both". You can apply this with copy paste to a bunch of files.
You also can use my "rotateClips" app which is XML based and can do these settings in an "intelligent" way very fast.

Andreas

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Timothy AllenRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 4:17:23 pm

That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the info.

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Timothy AllenRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 4:18:28 pm

I did. I even did "Save As..." and made a new self contained clip. Still no luck.

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Brian MillsRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 6:43:07 pm

Tim:

In QuickTime Pro, you would have to use Export, not Save As, to make your changes to the clip permanent. Then FCP would open them correctly.

Choosing Save As just makes a clone of your original file, and FCP will ignore the QT adjustments the same because those adjustments are made in the player, not to the file, unless you Export.

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Andreas KielRe: 180˚ Rotated Footage shows up in FCP Upside down?
by on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:35:06 pm

Just to confirm Brian's and my own statement.
Save or Save As in any flavour doesn't apply any changes do did in QuickTime Player for Final Cut Pro - After Effects will take other apps as well. Final Cut Pro always will take the "raw" QuickTime data in a "1 Video Track (which may include Gamma and Aspect) - X Audio Tracks - Y flagged Timecode Tracks" every beyond is ignored.

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