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FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Patrick Marrero on Oct 13, 2008 at 3:32:11 pm

Hey all,
I have a project that needs some foley work, audio sweetening and a good surround mix.The project is edited in FCP 6 and my audio guy uses Protools.
What is the best way to deliver the audio and a video reference file to protools? I have about 8 channels of audio with in the project.

Thanks in advance
Patrick

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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Kevin Monahan on Oct 13, 2008 at 3:39:03 pm

File > Export > Audio to OMF

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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Bill Dewald on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:11:35 pm

And give him a DV QT or whatever he wants for reference. An OMF is audio only...

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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Chris Borjis on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:13:46 pm


yep an omf export and dv export. if its long form you have
to split it up since omf is limited to 2gb



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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Bill Dewald on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:16:36 pm

Yep. And you might want to do a TC burn on the reference QT - it can be handy on the mix stage...




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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Chris Borjis on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:24:10 pm

[Bill Dewald] "And you might want to do a TC burn on the reference QT"

I forgot that most important aspect. TC burn is essential.



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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Lloyd O'Connor on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:34:52 pm

You will need Digitranslator or DV Toolkit 2 to open OMF files in Pro Tools. This is optional extra.



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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Tate Young on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:20:33 pm

In the past, I've exported a DV movie for ProTools, though that was an old suite they had. It worked, though--just the File >> Export >> Quicktime conversion >> DV STREAM. That gives a .dv tag at the end of the file, but I'm not sure what is the optimal file for a Pro Tools is to import. I'm sure some of these guys would know. In the meantime, I know that has worked in the past.

Also, in the past, I've run into an issue with OMFs on long projects with many tracks (1 hour/18 tracks) where the OMF exceeded 2GB and an error message came up saying 2GB exceeds the maximum capacity of the format. Anyone ever run into that? I had to break it into 2 9 track OMFs.







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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Chris Borjis on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:10:48 pm

[Tate Young] "In the past, I've exported a DV movie for ProTools, though that was an old suite they had. It worked, though--just the File >> Export >> Quicktime conversion >> DV STREAM. That gives a .dv tag at the end of the file, but I'm not sure what is the optimal file for a Pro Tools is to import. I'm sure some of these guys would know. In the meantime, I know that has worked in the past.

Also, in the past, I've run into an issue with OMFs on long projects with many tracks (1 hour/18 tracks) where the OMF exceeded 2GB and an error message came up saying 2GB exceeds the maximum capacity of the format. Anyone ever run into that? I had to break it into 2 9 track OMFs."


DV .mov files are really the best way because then you can hook up a canopus 110 dv to analog
adapter from your firewire to a television for on screen sweetening. Just as effective
yet a fraction of the cost of a Doremi disk recorder to do the same thing, not to mention
much quicker setup (no realtime recording needed, just export the dv file)

and yes I mentioned there is a 2gb limit for omf, so you work around it by doing segments
of the show at a time.


another option is pro export for final cut pro by automatic duck, you get many more options
for omf export.




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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Michael Gissing on Oct 14, 2008 at 12:44:16 am


First and foremost, ask the audio facility what they want. I never want BITC, as all I need to know is what is the first frame the file starts on. BITC can get in the way when doing foley so please ask.Also your audio people will advise you on the handle size they prefer.

For pics again ask. If they can run H264, it is a smaller file size. A DV file can be much larger and for long form shows, never fits on a DVDRom so you have to either break it up or send it on a drive.

In short, there is no best way so ask.

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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Arnie Schlissel on Oct 14, 2008 at 2:08:42 am

I'll agree with Micheal that you really need to ask someone at the sound house.

There are still a lot of places that want tape. there are some places that love DV files, some that hate it. I worked with a mixer in Moscow who wanted everything on PAL DVD+R.

And some places like short handles, some places like long handles. Some places will insist on your breaking it into reels of no more than 20 minutes.

Arnie

Post production is not an afterthought!
http://www.arniepix.com/

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Re: FCP 6 to Protools - Best way
by Chris Borjis on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:23:42 pm


Even when you tell them what you require a lot of times you don't get it.

case in point, I've had several clients send me H.264 or sorenson3 quicktimes when
I specifically said I needed DV .mov quicktimes or beta sp tapes.

so they send H.264 anyway then I have to convert it to DV .mov so
it shows up on the monitor to work over the DV box.

Arrghh!!!



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