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DVCPro 50 24p @ 29.97 - Pulldown?
by Shona Robbsa on Aug 20, 2008 at 8:41:08 pm

Hello,

I'm working on a project that was shot with the Panasonic SDX-900 at 24p.

I captured the footage with the DV50 Easy Set-up at 29.97 and I'll be outputting to DVCPro tape as well as DVD.

I've read through the forum on how it should be captured and edited, but I'm still unclear on Pulldown. Do I need to actually do anything with that in order to finish, or is the footage I captured fine in the 29.97 timeline without adding or removing pulldown? I apologize, but I just don't get it.

I read something about "flicker frames" and cutting on the 5th frame and that's a little unclear as well. I did notice when I exported a full-res Quicktime of the project that occasionally there would be a flash frame of the previous shot if I had used a clip from it's very first frame, so I went back and adjusted the in-points of those clips.

I'm giving the project to another post facility to online, and I want to make sure it's prepped as well as possible, so if anyone can tell me if there's any processing of the footage that I need to do before that I would really appreciate it.

Thank you,
Shona




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Re: DVCPro 50 24p @ 29.97 - Pulldown?
by Jerry Hofmann on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:11:54 pm

Once you've corrected any problems like you already have, you could be OK to go here. Wheither it's 29.97 with a pulldown or true 24fps won't look any different in the end. If you're delivering video and not printing to film I see no real reason to remove the pulldown. Since you've already edited the footage, doing so sounds to me like a nightmare...

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Re: DVCPro 50 24p @ 29.97 - Pulldown?
by Shona Robbsa on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:19:59 pm

Great, thanks a lot, Jerry.

Everything looks good, but I wanted to be sure there weren't going to be any surprises in the online. That's good news.

Thanks,
Joni





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Re: DVCPro 50 24p @ 29.97 - Pulldown?
by Dave LaRonde on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:51:16 pm

If you insist on shooting 24p, there are certain circumstances under which you absolutely, positively HAVE to remove pulldown. Here they are:

• You're going to make a 24p DVD
• You're doing a film-out
• Your video is intended for the web
• You're doing motion graphics whose motion MUST match the motion of a film frame rate
• There's even a hint that your project will go to PAL at some point

If you're doing anything else, you're good to go with the footage as it is.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: DVCPro 50 24p @ 29.97 - Pulldown?
by Herb Sevush on Aug 21, 2008 at 2:16:30 pm

Dave -

Under the conditions you outlined, why would anyone have edited it in a 29.97 timeline in the first place?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

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Re: DVCPro 50 24p @ 29.97 - Pulldown?
by Dave LaRonde on Aug 21, 2008 at 3:31:24 pm

[Herb Sevush] "...why would anyone have edited it in a 29.97 timeline in the first place? "

Editing 24p video in a 29.97 timeline shouldn't be a problem if the project is going to NTSC television or DVD only, and there aren't any fancy motion graphics.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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