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 | disappearing live fonts
by Jim Cunningham on Mar 11, 2009 at 2:23:43 pm |
I am working on a project in ProRez(normal) and using Live Fonts throughout the 7 min piece. From time to time some of the on screen letters disappear. I can open in editor/LT and everything will still be there. If I re-save it, or modify and re-save it usually comes back
OK, but I have to re-render.
Any thoughts?
MBP 2.8Ghz-4GB Ram - OS 10.5.6 - FCS2 - QT 7.5.7
Thanks,
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by Sjon Ueckert on Mar 11, 2009 at 3:46:10 pm |
Yea, you are mixing codecs. LT uses the animation codec (to get the clean edges around the letters - it's a 32 bit codec) and ProRes is a 24 bit codec (no alpha channel). You will always have to render any file from LT in FCP. As to why they disappear I would need more detail.
Sjon
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by Jim Cunningham on Mar 22, 2009 at 2:03:45 pm |
Sjon,
The disappearing fonts only happen with Live Fonts. I can open in LT editor and everything will be there...I save and come back to FCP and fonts will still be missing. I've never seen this before in any other project.
It is only happening with Live Fonts which are all individual QT movies so some corruption in the path would seem to be a possibility.
I know you can delete preferences in FCP (which I have tried) is there something like that specifically for LT?
Also, there are a lot of files in this project, older Macs used to have memory leaks(?), but now I'm really just guessing.
I ultimately exported the LTs as movies which work fine. The project is just on the verge of approval. After that I will try re-saving the project under another name, culling the source files and see if that has any effect.
Any thoughts?
(MBP 2.8 w/ 4MB RAM, 10.5.6, QT 7.5, FCS2)
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by Sjon Ueckert on Mar 22, 2009 at 8:32:42 pm |
Are you using third party LiveFonts are just the Apple ones? I have never heard of just a few letters disappearing. The fact that they are QT movies has no effect (they are gathered into one package). Somehow, the LT files in FCP are becoming unhooked from the original. Are you dragging the LT icon from the LT Canvas window directly into the FCP timeline?
Sjon
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by Jim Cunningham on Mar 23, 2009 at 3:38:22 pm |
Somehow, the LT files in FCP are becoming unhooked from the original.
I agree they seem to be unhooking. I find that sometimes, if I modify the text in LT then save, they will all appear in the FCP time line, but not always.
Are you dragging the LT icon from the LT Canvas window directly into the FCP timeline?
I create in LT, save, then import to FCP (no dragging)
I think I'll open up a new project and see if the LT Live Font files do the same disappearing act.
Cheers,
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Just wondering if you've made any headway on this problem as the exact same thing is happening to me. It only seems to happen with the Salute livefont. I haven't tried them all, but have jumped around to a few of them and all of the others I've tested so far show up fine. I am saving in LiveType and dragging the clip to my bin. It seems to be somewhat dependent on the letter. For example, small "a" is missing, but capital "A" is there. Also, if I load it in my viewer and scrub across it, sometimes letters will be there and then disappear. Finally, and perhaps most perplexing, different letters show up depending on if it's in the viewer or canvas. Nice right? Below is an image that shows how it looks in the LiveType canvas and the FCP viewer and canvas.
I've tried restarting the whole machine as well as creating the title from scratch with the same problem each time. Any ideas short of reinstalling the LiveType media?
I'm running FCP 6.0.5 and LiveType 2.1.3 on a Mac Pro dual quad running OSX 10.5.6. Last night I was working on a media managed version of this same project at home on an older mac running the same FCP software (OSX was different version..don't know which version off hand) and everything was fine (minus the horrendous render time).
Thanks,
Darren
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Ok, so I got it. Not exactly sure which step did it, but I trashed prefs of FCP and LiveType and reinstalled the LiveType media, then restarted the computer, opened the project, right clicked and opened ipr file in editor, resaved and they were back. So maybe trying that would work for you.
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by Maya Salganek on Jun 3, 2009 at 7:18:53 pm |
Hello,
I'm having a similar problem. I have my .ipr files embedded in FCP, and everything looks fine. But I'm finding that when I export the FCP sequence, random letters go missing. There is NO indication of a dropped letter in either Livetype nor FCP when playing. This is forcing me to go back to each sequence and review every single line of text for dropped letters. Any thoughts short of reloading software or replacing every .ipr with the corresponding .mov file?
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Wish I had an answer for this one. It's started happening with other LiveFonts and nothing seems to help it. When I open it in LiveType, everything is fine. When I open it in FCP the "20% OFF" becomes "0% OFF" which doesn't seem like a great sale to me.
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