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Howard MillsBest Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 21, 2012 at 3:52:24 pm

Hello, I am in the market for a PP turnkey system and would appreciate some help with choosing (from the 3 choices below) the best bang for the buck ($4,500 budget). I will not be shooting nor editing HD.

Thanks in advance.


Option 1
Adobe CS6 Production Premium UPGRADE
HP SmartBuy Z400 Single 3.20Ghz QC Intel Xeon W3565
12GB RAM1TB HD
DVDRW Drive
Win 7 Pro
PNY NVIDIA Quadro 2000
StarTech 3 port PCIe Firewire Card – 2 External 9pin FW800 & 1 External 6pin
FW400 (AVID APPROVED) AVID APPROVED*Use for AVID ONLY
FireMAX FX2 4TB Media RAID
- 2 x 2TB Drives
- 2 Bay RAID 0,1 Removable Quad Interface External Drive
- Speeds up to 100MB/s
- 1 x USB 2.0, 1 x FW400, 2 x FW800, 1 x eSATA


Option 2

Zalman - Z9 Mid-tower case. 3x 5.25, 6x 3.5, 1 2.5 drive bays.
Coolermaster - 700W Silent Pro M Pro 16DB
ADK - LGA1155X: Z77 3x 16X PCIe, 2PCIe 1x, 2 PCI, dual channnel DDR3 1600
Intel - Core i7 IVB @ 4.5GHz or higher Quad 8 meg cache with HT
16gig (4x4GB) DDR3 1600
HD 1 - SEAGATE - 1TB Sata 600 64meg cache
HD 2 - SEAGATE - 2TB 7200rpm 64Meg Cache
HD 3 - SEAGATE - 2TB 7200rpm 64Meg Cache
GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Asus - BW-12B1ST Internal Blu-ray Writer
USB 3.0 Flash Card Reader/Writer
2 Port eSATA II PCIe 2 x 7-pin Serial ATA/600 External SATA
Microsoft - Windows 7 Pro 64 bit OEM
Adobe - Production Premium CS6 Win/Mac Full Version


Option 3

SuperChassis/ Super X9SCA Motherboard
CPU: Intel Xeon Sandy Bridge 4C E3-1220
2x 4 GB DDR3-1333 MHz ECC RAM
Seagate 500 GB SATA 6.0 Gb/s Hard Drive
HITACHI 2TB SATA 3.5" INTERNAL HD/7200
24x DVD-RW SATA Drive
3x PCI-E 2.0/ 3x PCI 32-Bit Slots
Intel 82574L/ 2x GbE LAN Ports
Nvidia Quadro 2000 128-Bit DDR5 Graphics
CREATIVE-LABS SOUNDBLASTER AUDIGY
Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit OS
CONFIGURATION/TESTING

Mac Pro
|Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
|Boot Camp
|Win XP Pro SP3
|6GB DDR2 6400 800MHZ
|320GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA
|Three 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA
|One 1TB GMAX External Storage
|Two 2408WFP 24-inch Flat Panel Monitors
|Blackmagic Intensity Pro - HDMI capture card
|Adobe Creative Suite Production Premium CS3
|Boris Blue
|Boris FX
|Boris Graffiti
|2-Sony HVR-V1U
|Canon XL1(phased out)
|1-Lowell RIFA PRO88 Kit
|JVC-BR- DV3000


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Alex GerulaitisRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 21, 2012 at 6:44:22 pm

Each has merits / benefits. Which one do you like the best so far?

A couple of notes:

Go with a Z420 rather than Z400 (which is EOL this October). Why did they spec Avid-approved parts on a PP system?

Option 3 is a tad weak.

Option 2 is the most powerful - with the hope it's less of a gaming rig and more of a "pro" setup. (Zalman Z9 is a bit of a gaming case.) What motherboard and which Core i7 CPU does ADK use?

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Integrator
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Todd PerchertRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 22, 2012 at 2:32:06 pm

I agree with Alex. Option 3, even though I really like Supermicro boards - they are solid - but it is a little weak, and Supermicro is usually lagging on features because their primary market is servers.
Option 2 sounds good, but don't know what the motherboard is. If something like Gigabyte, I'd tend to go elsewhere (I'm not a fan of GB).
And option 1, def look at the 420.

I realize this isn't a solid yes/no answer, but there are pluses of each system. Hope it helps.
Good Luck!
TC


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Howard MillsRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 22, 2012 at 7:36:18 pm

First let me say thank you for taking the time to respond.

"Why did they spec Avid-approved parts on a PP system?" Good question... I'll ask about that.

To be honest I do not have a personal preference.

I asked ADK which motherboard will be installed in the system and was told "We don't actually disclose the boards that we use." I then asked which processor and was told the i7-3770k.


Thanks again!

P.S. ADK did mention the board will be of "geek/gamer quality."


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Alex GerulaitisRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 22, 2012 at 8:10:01 pm

[Howard Mills] "P.S. ADK did mention the board will be of "geek/gamer quality.""

From my personal experience, most gamer oriented products have performance / reliability / design ratio not in favor of the latter two. With HP, Dell, Supermicro (and in some instances, Asus) enterprise class (workstation, server, storage) products - it's reliability and serviceability first, design and usability (such as tool-less assembly, health monitoring, etc.) - second. All of that - not necessarily at the expense of performance, but performance does take the back seat to the first two. You just don't see many over-clocked or very "tuneable" servers and workstations.

Bottom line, I just don't see the same amount of engineering poured into gamer / geek systems, as into HP / Dell flagships, and in the end, it does matter - for overall quality and reliability. I want to use a tool that is well and purpose-engineered rather than stitched together from various geek / gamer components.

And hey - it's gotta look "pro", too. Name one geek / gamer case that even remotely approaches the "pro" look (not to mention features and quality) of Z800/820, or T7600 series. Sure, Lian-Li PC-Z70 has that "stealth" enigma, and you can put nine (!) swappable drives into it, and yet there is a world of difference when you actually put them side-by-side and work with them.

Yet on the other hand, a system such as that from ADK (overclocked Ivy Bridge Core i7 with a 670 and fast RAM) - blow the doors off of anything similarly priced from Tier 1 makers, and you'd need to spend $1-3K more to get similar performance from HP or Dell.

Long post, eh?

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Integrator
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Alex GerulaitisRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 22, 2012 at 8:34:31 pm

[Alex Gerulaitis] "Go with a Z420 rather than Z400 (which is EOL this October)"

Here is a decent Z420 "smartbuy" model, B2B94UT at $2199:

http://l.dv411.com/HPZ420-B2B94UT

(I have to use a shotlink service rather than a direct link to hp.com because Cow mangles HP URLs for some reason.)

It has a six-core Xeon E5-1650 3.20GHz that runs its memory at 1600MHz (and that's a huge performance boost over lower Xeons with 1066MHz memory access), takes up to five drives, nearly any graphics including 670, 680, Quadro 6000, etc.

Its graphics-less and has 8GB RAM out of the box. I'd add a GTX-670 to it, another 8GB RAM (at least), 1-3 media drives, and it's as solid an editing system as any - probably still for under $3K.

(Speaking of which, I should probably soup it up and put it on my web site. It's a good Smartbuy.)

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Integrator
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Bob ZelinRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 29, 2012 at 4:17:02 pm

My current personal computer is a HP Z420. It's great and it's cheap.
It's supported by everyone - why screw around.

Bob Zelin



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Howard MillsRe: Best Windows Turnkey Editing System - Three options within
by on Aug 29, 2012 at 4:28:25 pm

I agree! Sometimes it pays to be a procrastinator, because yesterday I received an email from HP with some great Labor Day deals, so, just a few minutes ago I ordered a Z420.

I really do appreciate the help,
Howard


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