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Christopher TravisBest multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 19, 2012 at 4:08:43 pm

Hello,

I'm relatively new to AVID and am trying to work out the best way to cut a show with 4 cameras and 8 audio channels.

putting to one side the issues with shooting and acquiring the footage/audio, I'm interested in any ways I can keep my timeline tidy while editing and not have 8-16 tracks of audio taking up my screen.

Is there a way I can nest the tracks into a stereo mix, cut that, then expand them all back out before sending it to the dubbing mixer? Maybe that's too much to ask, but anything that can help me achieve something similar would be really appreciated.


Thanks,
Chris


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John PaleRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 19, 2012 at 5:43:22 pm

No audio nesting.

You can make a stereo pair appear as a single track, though.


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Michael PhillipsRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 20, 2012 at 2:00:38 am

Does the audio file only consist of 8 ISO tracks or is one of them already a mix of 7 ISOs? If the latter, then Media Composer's Autosync can use just the mix track as part of the process. I would autosync that to one of the cameras, then take the new .sync clip and group that and the other cameras as a group.

Michael


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Christopher TravisRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 20, 2012 at 3:32:57 pm

Forgive my ignorance but what is an ISO?


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Michael PhillipsRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 20, 2012 at 3:41:23 pm

An ISO is a track that is ISOlated to a single mike, be it the boom, or a lav on a particular actor/subject. Typically you would have an ISO of the boom and a lav on each of the actors, depending on how many actors and such are in the scene. Most modern audio recorders will also let you take the sum of the ISO tracks and automatically create a mix track or tracks at the same time. So for an 8 track recorder you could have up to 7 ISO tracks with a single mix-down track (sum of the 7). In editorial, the mix track is synced to dailies and should the editor need a particular track, they can match back to the original BWF and grab it as needed.

It would be a great feature for Avid to provide this as a virtual mix when doing AutoSync, but there would be lots of steps involved to create one manually and preserve all the metadata from the original BWF file.

But perhaps your multitrack files already have a mix track. Ask the mixer or open a file in Sound Devices Wave Agent and see if there is any metadata in the track info provided by production audio.


Michael


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Christopher TravisRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 21, 2012 at 5:49:19 pm

This sounds promising. So is there a workflow that will allow me to do the offline edit with just the mix rack, and then pass the timeline, along with all the separate ISOs to the dubbing mixer, and have him easily relink back to whatever tracks he needs?


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Michael PhillipsRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 21, 2012 at 6:14:07 pm

There is, if planned for ahead of time, but it starts with the production audio mixer doing the mix track on set, usually TRK1, then only selecting that track when doing AutoSync.

Michael


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Trevor AsquerthianRe: Best multi-channel audio workflow?
by on Oct 21, 2012 at 7:01:55 pm

You could cut with the mix track but have the 8 iso tracks bundled as a 7.1 audio track along for the ride. This will make for easier editing.

You can't have multicam grouped clips with multichannel clips - so you may need to lay out your sequence before cutting.

Virtual Katy and Conformalyzer can conform the production mix back to the iso recordings, allegedly. Not sure how foolproof it is.



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