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 | rendering orange bars
by James Ewart on Aug 9, 2012 at 5:49:28 am |
Just finished my first test project in FCPX...can't believe what heavy weather I made of it but what a joy trimming has become with the magnetic timeline I so hated. Thanks for all your support much appreciated.
By the way with some clips in a project even though I have rendered and re rendered I still have little orange bars indicating this is not the case...a bug perchance?
cheers
James
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by Oliver Peters on Aug 9, 2012 at 1:04:25 pm |
[James Ewart] "By the way with some clips in a project even though I have rendered and re rendered I still have little orange bars indicating this is not the case...a bug perchance?
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Sometimes X still forgets the links to rendered files. Turn off background rendering. Most of the work can be left unrendered if it doesn't impede your workflow. It will render anyway as part of any export. If you want to render and have this persistent problem, try deleting all your project render files (in the project dialogue) and then re-render all. After you've done this, it will tend to stay linked to the render files.
- Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by James Ewart on Aug 9, 2012 at 1:23:48 pm |
Thanks I've done all that and still just in a couple of places (two clips actually) there are still orange unrendered bars...and it plays fine so I guess I should not worry about it but it is a little unnerving!!
Just lots of little mini bars...weird actually...quite like to post a photo but can't figure out how...doh!

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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by Bret Williams on Aug 9, 2012 at 6:21:42 pm |
Never seen all the little tiny unrendered marks like that. But occasionally I'll have a little 5 sec section that will not show as rendered. It is rendered, but doesn't show as such. In any case it'll be rendered when you export for sure.
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by James Ewart on Aug 9, 2012 at 7:17:06 pm |
thanks I have a suspicion that it is caused by mixed formats originated in same camera (Panasonic TM900O) I have used for this test project...some of which did not seem to transcode media in the way that I asked.
i think for the time being I will use streamclip to do all this prior to import so I know for sure what I have.
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by Bret Williams on Aug 10, 2012 at 10:01:24 pm |
Unless you have a slow system, I wouldn't bother transcoding. I never have. Mix web video, DV, 5d h264, pro res, xdcam all in same timeline. Works fine. Besides, I generally do something to every clip, so let it get rendered to ProRes instead of transcoding.
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by James Ewart on Aug 11, 2012 at 4:28:58 am |
But you check Create Optimised right? And create proxy?
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by alban egger on Aug 11, 2012 at 8:58:25 am |
Check "optimize" only when your system has trouble with h.264/AVCHD/mp4.
I use it on GoPro footage, but not Canon DSLRs, because those play fine on my on my systems.
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by Bret Williams on Aug 11, 2012 at 3:21:06 pm |
Nope. Can't see a reason to. My workflow - Cards get copied to 2 separate drives during the shoot. LaCie Rugged and an inexpensive USB drive. THEN, at the suite, the files are copied to a Raid 5 Pegasus. At this point the files are essentially quadrupled backup. Plus the SD/CF cards until they get reused at some point.
Most of my shoots have been multicam dslr shoots so far. 2 or 3 cams. On an i7 imac, with TB pegasus raid, I've had no problem playing back 3 streams of DSLR h264 video. Oh, the occasional dropped frame for sure, especially with unrendered fx or color correction or titles, but I leave the dropped frames warning off, or switch to better performance if I need to. The latter is like working with a pseudo proxy anyway.
Copying the files to the event would just duplicate the files, since my events and projects are on the pegasus. So, I don't do that either. In my tests, ProRes makes for smoother scrubbing at high speeds. Nice, but not really worth quadrupling the space the files take on the drive. I don't need my 200+ gigs of media to suddenly take a terabyte of space.
The only reason I even gave FCP X a chance earlier this year, was because of two things. Automatic multicam sync to audio, and the ability not to transcode h264 to ProRes. In all seriousness, had Adobe PPro CS6 included some sort of automatic PluralEyes function like FCP X, I'd probably be using it. I have CS6, but it just doesn't perform as well on the iMac nor have the function that X does. In many ways CS6 is just a more powerful, yet less empowered, version of FCP 7. Sort of. If that makes sense. But I'm sure I'll start using it for more after effects heavy driven projects in the future.
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• | | | |  | Re: rendering orange bars by James Ewart on Aug 11, 2012 at 4:24:26 pm |
I was advised by an Apple "expert" many months ago during my first attempt to use the software (I gave up that time) that the recommended workflow was to create both optimised and proxy files so I have blindly assumed that was the best workflow.
I must say I cannot get my head round not having to transcode/convert before and edit.
At the moment my project is a test learning project shooting with little Panasonic TM900 and so I am obeying them and creating files in Events folder. I have to get the ASVCHD files off the SD card. But I am to be the only one bothering with this recommended workflow...most people it seems don't even bother to "copy files to events folder" which I thought was an absolute must.
Interestingly though when I do select "create optimised media" with AVCHD files FCPX does not bother to transcode and just puts the stuff in "original Media" folder.
When I shoot in the 1080P mode (amazing quality for such a little no professional camera) it does seem to think transcode to Pro Res is a better idea. But I am using humungous amounts of storage so next time I'll not bother with optimised (maybe keep making proxy files?? though??)
Most of my professional work is shot with canon 5D or 7D.
The multicam is amazing I agree.
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