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Russell LassonAfter a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 4:20:09 pm

Now that it's been a couple of days since the release, this is what I think it comes down to.

The hour glass has started. Apple has to start updating soon and adding in basic pro features. We'll see what Lion brings in July.

I think that things are going to get better, I just don't know if they'll get better fast enough for pro users to stay on the bandwagon. I also don't know if Apple's way of making things better is the same as what the pros think would make it better. We'll see.

But as far as my home videos are concerned, FCPX, HERE I COME!!!!!!

Russ

Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Chris BorjisRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 4:26:05 pm

[Russell Lasson] "We'll see what Lion brings in July."

exactly! thats what I'm waiting for now before making any judgements.



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Mark SuszkoRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 4:34:09 pm

I'm a Cubs fan; I can out-wait you ALL:-)


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Andrew CornelesRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 4:38:49 pm

It kinda feels like deja-vu all over again, lots of us were SURE
that snow leopard was going to coincide (or they were waiting for it)
with bringing 64 to FCP


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Chris BorjisRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 4:40:41 pm

[Andrew Corneles] "snow leopard was going to coincide (or they were waiting for it)
with bringing 64 to FCP"


The more I read about snow leopard the more It seems like a 64-bit "band aided" O/S than a native full on 64-bit O/S as in Lion.



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Chris BorjisRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 4:39:10 pm

ha ha Mark



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Andrew CornelesRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 5:08:29 pm

so maybe fcp7 will be 64 bit after all with lion?
Let's wait to see what they do!


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Jeremy GarchowRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 5:22:50 pm

[Andrew Corneles] "so maybe fcp7 will be 64 bit after all with lion? "

Nope. Never was, never will be.


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Andrew CornelesRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 5:31:04 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "[Andrew Corneles] "so maybe fcp7 will be 64 bit after all with lion? "

Nope. Never was, never will be."


Sorry my sarcasm doesn't hold up in forums :P


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Jeremy GarchowRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:01:41 pm

[Andrew Corneles] ":P"

Yeah, you use those I get it. (_8(|)


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Stefan BuhrmesterRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:01:27 pm

I'm running the DP4 Update 1 of Lion and it does not add any features to FCPX.

Seriously, what do you guys expect?


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Chris BorjisRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:05:00 pm

[Stefan Buhrmester] "I'm running the DP4 Update 1 of Lion and it does not add any features to FCPX.

Seriously, what do you guys expect?"


features added later when Lion is in full release to the rest of the world.

I wasn't meaning it would work any different with version 1.0 on Lion.

1.x releases ON Lion.



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Stefan BuhrmesterRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:07:30 pm

Ah, I see :)


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Jeremy GarchowRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:05:09 pm

[Stefan Buhrmester] "Seriously, what do you guys expect?"

A deeper A/V Foundation connection to allow the real use of "capture" cards so I can get real time baseband video out of the application for starters.

This will come from Lion's abilities, but FCP will need an update. Lion isn't going to automagically bring more function to the application without some features being "turned on" and installed.


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Tom BrooksRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:22:00 pm

Jeremy, does anyone, anywhere--in a book, an article, whatever--explain how computers connect their video processing to such hardware devices? I'd like to know a little more about that.


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Jeremy GarchowRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:23:54 pm

[Tom Brooks] " I'd like to know a little more about that."

Meaning how video is sent to/from a capture card? Or are you talking about video processing (rendering) to a graphics card?


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Tom BrooksRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 7:03:20 pm

The former--how video is passed to a capture card.


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Jeremy GarchowRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 23, 2011 at 7:24:10 pm

I am not an expert in this area as I don't program, but with FCP and AJA or other cards, they "simply" pass the data to the VOut plugin of Quicktime. There's a built in QT infrastructure that allows video data to be passed to hardware. At that point, the AJA drivers/PCI card take over, decode the video data, and send it to a display.

That is a super simplified explanation. I am not sure of any articles, but I am sure a search of Quicktime VOut will come up with some things.


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Yurii HydrickRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 24, 2011 at 12:04:25 am

"As far as my home videos are concerned, FCPX, HERE I COME!!!!!!" ... that's right!

I love it for the average home user, even wedding videographers and YouTube videographers will likely get some great use out of it – but "Pro" it certainly is not. Pro's in any field achieved their status by understanding the rules of the game so well that they knew how and when to break them... and in so doing, they not only made it work, but made it better than if they'd followed the rules. Each product Apple releases becomes more and more template (or "we'll do it for you") oriented, which reduces the tools a pro needs to have that final touch capability that makes them pro. They keep dumbing things down. It's like handing Van Gogh a paint by number (have you seen the FCPX preferences – or lack thereof?). Nothing wrong with a paint by number, it just needs to be handed to the right audience. Discontinuation of FC Express is a pretty good indicator of who they were targeting.

I'm in agreement with you Russ, the clock is ticking. They better make some significant updates very soon, or their hand in the pro film market may possibly be winding down. But we'll see. I hope they figure it out, you know how I love Apple :)

Quick side note, regarding your other thread:

Must haves:

• FCP7 Compatible
• External monitoring
• EDL/XML/OMF etc import and export (yea I know, they're working on an "amazing" workflow option... but not everyone is going to switch to it over nigh)
• Multicam
• Way more preference options including...
• Toggle magnetic timeline
• Option to turn off auto bg rendering
• Color WHEEL

and a whole slew of others.

I'm with you though, family videos will be great in FCPX!!!!

Yurii


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Russell LassonRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jun 24, 2011 at 5:17:48 pm

Thanks for all you support through this hard and trying time in my life :)

Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Jason CollinsRe: After a couple of days here is what it comes down to.
by on Jul 5, 2011 at 11:18:46 pm

Just FYI, there is an option to disable background rendering in the Prefs.
:-)


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