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Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.

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Robert BrackenHas anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 2:16:13 pm

I just noticed this today. I know you can add it through the effects menu but this was super easy.
Thanks Apple.

I don't care if people label FCP X as "prosumer."
It works great, fast and reliable.



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Paul JayRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 3:16:14 pm

It's a default property on every clip. Like any other paramater, scaling, opacity etc
It's fantastic.


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Bobby MoscaRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 3:16:26 pm

Yeah, I've used it. It's nice! Limited, quick, easy, and limited.


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Paul JayRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 3:18:31 pm

What is limited about it?
That you can do secondary corrections?

It's no DaVinci Resolve, but it's not limited.


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Michael GriggsRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 3:20:51 pm

it's called lift - gamma - gain. And it's on just about every color correcter plug in ever...


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Jeremy GarchowRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 3:38:22 pm

Are we talking bout the preset saver, here?


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Andrew RichardsRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 4:07:35 pm

Yeah, I thought that was Robert's point. Is that new?

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Jeremy GarchowRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 4:09:16 pm

[Andrew Richards] "Yeah, I thought that was Robert's point. Is that new?"

Nothing in that screen grab is new unless I am missing something.

I thought that Shape mask key framing was new in 10.0.4, but it wasn't! ;)

Jeremy


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Morten RanmarRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 4:14:12 pm

Unfortunately color fx are not keyframable...

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Jeremy GarchowRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 4:16:29 pm

[Morten Ranmar] "Unfortunately color fx are not keyframable..."

Nerp.


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Robert BrackenRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 4:55:18 pm

I didn't know that there were presets in the Color Correction window. I learn something new everyday.


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Liam HallRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 5:04:49 pm

[Robert Bracken] "I didn't know that there were presets in the Color Correction window. I learn something new everyday."

I can recommend both Lynda.com and Ripple training. Takes the pain out of learning new software.

As for the colour presets - they're cute, but fairly basic.

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Jason PorthouseRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 5:14:20 pm

It's useful in that you can save your CC as a 'grade', but it doesn't include shape data (so no vignettes or selective CC) and the list becomes pretty long and unwieldy if you've a lot to correct. To be truly useful the presets need to save shape and mask data, and Apple need to make it so you can copy corrections (either one or multiple) from clip to clip. I know you can 'paste attributes' but this takes all filters, crop and mask, and unlike 7 you can't choose. So making it simpler has made my job harder. Hoping this is addressed in a future revision...

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alban eggerRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 21, 2012 at 7:29:34 pm

[quote]I know you can 'paste attributes' but this takes all filters, crop and mask, and unlike 7 you can't choose. So making it simpler has made my job harder.[/quote]

but you can paste the color-correction alone with all masks, but without any other effects/scales etc.
It is in the Commandset, you need to make a keyboard-shortcut, because the command is not in the menu.



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Duncan CraigRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 22, 2012 at 7:59:54 am

"you can paste the color-correction alone with all masks, but without any other effects/scales etc.
It is in the Commandset, you need to make a keyboard-shortcut, because the command is not in the menu"

I'v been trying to find this function, can tell me where it is?

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alban eggerRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 22, 2012 at 4:29:06 pm

Duncan,
go to "Commands" (below Preferences) and set a keyboard Shortcut for the command "Apply Color Correction"

There are three of them!!! Apply Color Correction from last clip, second last or third last. I have SHIFT-V, SHIFT-CMD-V and Shift-OPT-CMD-V.



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Duncan CraigRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 22, 2012 at 4:48:46 pm

Thanks, yes I've just been doing these actually.
Though I thought you were referring to some kind of paste function to anywhere on the timeline.
Duncan.

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alban eggerRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 22, 2012 at 7:25:01 pm

No, only the last 3. A workaround to get "anywhere" is copying the clip with the wanted settings and pasting right in front of the new one. then Allpying the color correction. Finally take the clip away again. In the magnetic timeline this is a matter of seconds.



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James MortnerRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 6:17:03 pm

i dont understand ! Why is it game over ?


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Robert BrackenRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 9:30:24 pm

I don't know why I said "game over." But, Apple has done an amazing job of simplifying the editing process.


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TImothy AuldRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 9:52:32 pm

While I appreciate anything that can make tasks easier I have to say that the editing process is neither simple or simplfyable (I made that word up and so I really hope I spelled it right.) Anything that helps with organization is great. And I have always said that editing is 90% organization. But that is really just organization and applicable to any given subject. It's really the remaining 10% that defines the editing process.

Tim


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Greg AndonianRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 8:11:50 pm

The fact that this is a default adjustment built into every clip is pretty cool- but it does seem limited, and the fact that there's a preset called "Alien Lab" gets me thinking again about X's iMovie roots... :P

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Jim GibertiRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 20, 2012 at 9:02:24 pm

Game over?

This is a rudimentary implementation of a good idea.

When Apple allows keyframing, bezier masks, independent presets, and grade comparison within the window then it will begin catch up to professional grading.

It's nice, it's fast, I use it all the time, it's very limited compared to what it should be in 2012.

It's been there since the program was introduced.


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Bret WilliamsRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 21, 2012 at 12:37:23 am

I'd really really really like to know how it is fast. This is the slowest clunkiest editor I've ever used. I'm giving it a whirl on what should be it's bread and butter. A testimonials project. Lots to log. Works great for organization and logging. Although you need multiple event windows. Like premiere sorta. But all this grouping and connecting only makes for a good practiced demonstration. I don't need to be breaking apart and reconnecting. I don't need workarounds to make split edits. I don't need 3rd party plugins for a drop shadow on an alpha channel graphic. And I'm blown away that there isn't a soft edged crop. You STILL apparently can't copy and paste keyframes. Probably the first thing I complained about in FCP 1.x. But now, you can't even paste attributes.

FCP X is kinda like Android. I actually thought it was better than it was until I tried it.


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Jim GibertiRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 21, 2012 at 12:43:11 am

[Bret Williams] "I'd really really really like to know how it is fast."

My post was specifically about the limited but fast secondaries in the color board. It was hardly a ringing endorsement kind of a post .


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Bret WilliamsRe: Has anyone else noticed this? Game over, great job by Apple.
by on Apr 21, 2012 at 12:56:37 am

You're right. My bad. I do like the grading part myself. I really don't' expect a NLE to be DaVinci. Especially DaVinci is free for 1080 material and less. And it is a completely viable roundtrip solution. Much more so than Color was. Of course Color could've been the industry standard, but then there's that EOL'd issue.


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