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Chad Brewer100s of GB of data (or at least more than 2)
by on Feb 9, 2011 at 1:42:59 am

This is kind of piggy backing on Bob Zelin's response to something I posted in a thread not too far below about fiber connectivity...

Regarding what I said there about bandwidth availability and cost in places like Europe these days compared to our corporately controlled &^%#! infrastructure, I almost fell out of my chair during the State of the Union address a few weeks back...Somewhere in the middle of all the usual "great news," our president basically admitted that as a technically advanced nation, we have third-world internet connectivity and that our future success requires great connectivity for all! There is unused bandwidth that can be used, further developed!, and/or be offered at a price that could legitimize something more than 45Mbps for $3000 a month. But again, it's not the government, it's the corporations. And again, it's not the corporations, it's the government. They are all co-workers. Ok, enough about that. Sorry for my rant.

So, over the past few years we've been on the receiving end of Aspera Connect data transfers. The client download is free and is a web based connection. We have been receiving 45GB files via our down connection averaging 40Mbps in just over 2 hours. So we could take a 30 minute 1080 ProRes program down in around 90 minutes...An hour long 1080 ProRes file down in around 3 hours...That still beats FedEx, especially if you and the client have the ability to start the transfer early in the business day or let it cook overnight..

Thus, I'm wondering what the costs are for Aspera's servers to host your data...If it can be free and this fast on a user's end, then I guess their service is ridiculously expensive, but I don't know.

Anyone know more about Aspera's service or anything comparable that can achieve these data rates and or what it costs to serve such data?

Have a look:
http://www.asperasoft.com/en/technology/fasp_versus_FTP_4/fasp_versus_FTP_4

Chad Brewer
Senior Broadcast Videotape Operator
TeleVersions, LLC


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Erik FreidRe: 100s of GB of data (or at least more than 2)
by on Feb 9, 2011 at 5:35:07 pm

You are looking at a minimum entry level basic enterprise capped at 25mb.sec for each server license for around 20K not including server hardware If I remember correctly from talking with them about 18 months ago. Also some labor time as you have to configure your network to play nice with their software, specific open ports, etc.

not cheap!

Erik Freid | MediaSilo, Inc
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Chad BrewerRe: 100s of GB of data (or at least more than 2)
by on Feb 11, 2011 at 1:36:24 am

Thanks for the reply Erik. I figured something like that after reading that Technicolor, Ascent Media, James Cameron, etc. can all move their media around at high speeds via Aspera.

I guess we're lucky to be on the free receiving end.
In the meantime, we'll wait for our country's bandwidth revolution.

Chad Brewer
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Erik FreidRe: 100s of GB of data (or at least more than 2)
by on Feb 11, 2011 at 4:39:13 pm

Hi Chad,

Remember it is not just the protocol. While Aspera, Signiant, file catalyst use UDP and FSTP, and other non FTP protocols they allow for huge file sizes, verification and continuing of a paused transfer things FTP just does not due because when FTP was designed 100 MB was considered big, they could not fathom a 1 hour ~300 GB DNX220 file.

What the big cost is for bandwidth. Technicolor's production network costs them ~18K a month PER FACILITY to maintain a 100-150 megbyte pipe (a little under OC-24) between them. They have about a dozen facilities worldwide tied together so over 200K to keep it up per month.

But you need both the protocol and bandwidth to get the performance. The protocol on its own will maximize the available bandwidth, and even make things like latency and file size a non factor, but without the bandwidth it is limited on its own.

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