Is it really worth upgrading to CS6?
by Perry Cheng on Jul 27, 2012 at 12:29:22 am
Folks,
I just watched the intro of new features in CS6 for Premiere as well as PS. Is it just me or what? I am very disappointed with the features, no real significant added features, feel more like a .x update.
For PPro, adjustment layer is nice and the Wrap correction filter (stablizer) is not that impressive (compared to Prodad Mercalli). How many people really need 7multicams edit?
For PS, ok, really, interface lift? I can't even remember what are the rest of updates?
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by JonZ MarZ on Jul 27, 2012 at 3:08:33 am
I'll wait a little if I were you. It a crash fest since my upgrade. Unless you are interested in the new features badly, you have to be prepared to spam ctrl+s keys.
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by JonZ MarZ on Jul 27, 2012 at 6:50:33 am
My system is fine, I never had problems with CS4 nor CS5 until I upgrade to CS6, and this is tried on two different computers. Adobe support was just clueless about my problems, put all the updates and still have random crashes or weird behaviors. And I don't even make a full use of it. I just can't recommend it to anyone right now, me and my coworker have the same problems.
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Walter Soyka on Jul 27, 2012 at 2:22:48 pm
[Perry Cheng]" I am very disappointed with the features, no real significant added features, feel more like a .x update. "
The feel of the application is vastly, vastly improved. I'd suggest you download the 30-day trial and give it a spin. I believe that once you use it, you'll change your mind on the scope of the update.
Tom gave you a nice list of new features. There are two features I'd add.
The first is hover scrub. If you drag the mouse cursor (without clicking) over movie icons in the project panel, you can skims through the media right in the icon itself.
The second is a biggie -- uninterrupted playback. You can now do other things like tweak effect parameters while program playback continues live.
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Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Joseph W. Bourke on Jul 27, 2012 at 3:44:35 pm
Hi Walter -
I have been requesting that feature since my days working with Combustion. It was always there in Combustion - you could start a RAM preview, then change settings, and the RAM preview would update and continue playing. That's worth the price of admission alone.
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Chris Borjis on Jul 27, 2012 at 4:19:53 pm
I've been waiting for CS 6 since the day it was announced.
It has delivered in nearly every way I wanted it to.
What a lot of folks don't realize is that it does require a pretty
fast system with a supported CUDA/OpenCL card and RAID storage
to ensure smooth consistent playback.
It might not look much different, but under the hood its a
wholly new and improved experience.
I've not once yet had any random crashes that shut premiere down like I had with CS 5.5
(running mac version on 10.6.8 with black magic hardware)
My only gripe is that unrendered playback has synch issues, but
that can be expected I suppose when you have 5 layers of camera native HD footage and graphics.
Rendered it plays back perfectly.
I've been using it daily since it came out and it's never caused any problems
that didn't allow me to get a job done on time. Even with clients in the room.
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Perry Cheng on Jul 28, 2012 at 4:44:13 am
Thanks folks. I think I should take Walter's advice to trial it. Really, I am just an video edit enthusiast, therefore, no need for the fancy stuff. I don't use MAC, so, no need for the improvement in that regard... so, what features attract an average user, not the professionals?
redesigned, efficient, customizable user interface
>> nice, but not entirely have to be for me, cause the interface in CS5 is pretty good already.
dynamic trimming, including trimming with JKL and other keyboard shortcuts
>> improve efficiency but I don't see how I would need that. Good to have.
adjustment layers
>> yes, sounds very useful. Like PS.
Warp Stabilizer effect
>> The only attraction. But, like I said before, Mecalli is better, right? This feature basically is just take from AE plugin to make it PPro plugin.
expanded multi-camera editing, with more multicam angles and improved interface
>> Useless for non-professional.
improved performance, extending GPU processing to some systems using OpenCL
>> Nice, but another toy.
new and more powerful audio features, including adaptive audio tracks, customizable audio channel mapping for output, and improved Audio Mixer panel
>> For professionals
new native import of ARRI Alexa, RED Scarlet, RED Epic, and Canon Cinema EOS C300 footage
>> For pros
improved color features, including integration with SpeedGrade and redesigned Three-Way Color Corrector effect
>> For pros.
improved workflows with other applications in Adobe Creative Suite, as well as with Final Cut Pro and Avid software
>> For pros.
faster Adobe Media Encoder, redesigned to make authoring for multiple outputs and mobile devices easier
>> minor improvements.
enhanced Adobe Encore for creation of DVDs, Blu-ray Discs, and web DVDs
>> an minor improvement.
Adobe Transmit and Kona 3 performance
>> no idea what these are for.
Overall, it is not worth my upgrade. When you compare CS4 to CS5 PPro, there is a lot of great new features (Cuda support, customizeable workspace, fast color corrector, Ultra)while CS5 to CS6, just basically improvements. How are improvements worth the upgrade? Photoshop CS5 has the content aware vs there is no such feature before is what worth an upgrade. An minor improvement on content aware by allowing you to choose where to sample from is not worthy of the upgrade. Well, may be it is just me. I am happy with CS5 so far. Thanks for your feedback though.
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Alex Udell on Jul 28, 2012 at 11:43:45 am
"dynamic trimming, including trimming with JKL and other keyboard shortcuts
>> improve efficiency but I don't see how I would need that. Good to have."
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Michael Colin on Jul 29, 2012 at 5:44:37 pm
PP6 is excellent software. I'm doing an offline edit of RED EPIC 5K footage on a 2009 17" MacBook Pro. I have to use 1/16 resolution, but coming from the earliest days of lo-rez AVID editing, that's nothing. And it's not just cuts-only, I can use simple transitions, effects and motion parameters. All with software-only Mercury Engine. Pretty amazing.
Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by Owen Wexler on Jul 30, 2012 at 11:38:45 am
Truth... once you use a good robust dynamic system of trimming you will not be able to edit without it... it is just so much faster, smoother, and more efficient than using trim tools.
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Re: Is it really worth upgrading to CS6? by walter biscardi on Aug 8, 2012 at 9:25:52 am
Absolutely worth the price of admission. Much improved interface alone is worth it. Performance is faster across the board and it's definitely more stable than 5.5 was.
Audio controls are improved over 5.5 though not perfect yet. Should be improved as the product moves forward. Media management is still sketchy, but if you follow the advice in "An Editor's Guide to Adobe Premiere Pro" from Richard, Robbie and Jeff you'll be able to manually manage it well.
Upgrades are not just about the whiz bang new features, they're also about the underpinnings of the application. Adobe has done a great job "under the hood" with this new version and it points to a good future. I would absolutely upgrade to CS6 for the improved performance.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef. HD Post and Production Biscardi Creative Media
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