A positive report (so far)

This is a cross post. I put it in the Premiere Forum at Adobe. I post here as well, because when a company is doing something that works I want to encourage that. I've complained enough in the past, so...

Additionally if there are other positive points this is an encouragement to post those, along with operational, technical and complaint posts :)
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I have been a long time Premiere user (version 3, yes 3, not CS3) onward and have been generally pleased with the overall experience. I also was being a bit of a bug about the subscription idea (too many bad experiences with the likes of Auto Desk and the ilk) and I found the idea of being forced to upgrade as versions came out or face an ever increasing upgrade fee distasteful. I have Master Collection and that is not inconsequential to do. Well after cooling my jets and actually looking at the Creative Cloud offer, I upgraded (at a very reasonable cost). Being on a continual upgrade path is nice as well.

Positive Point One: Upgrade model is friendly

Additionally since the version 6 Premiere I have dearly missed hearing audio in the trim monitor. When I complained I received overwhelming silence. Adobe suggested a feature request and the community said "maybe that was useful, I've never really needed that, what do you use that for". My work flow. Timeline, fast forward looking for breaks and mark them, goto top and use shortcuts to advance to next marker, cut. Go to top, open Trim Monitor and advance through, quickly ripple and rock-n-roll through cut points (listening to audio as well as looking at picture to find the rough cuts)

IT'S BACK!!! Audio in the trim mode . Additionally now material on different tracks trim just fine. No advancing along and skipping chunks on different tracks (I lift material to higher tracks for a quick sorting method. ie. Track 1 probably not useful, Track 2: potential use, Track 3 Primary Use)

Also the new trim modes (which being a long time premiere editor, I am not that used to yet) appear to have great value.

Positive Point Two: Trimming much improved

So after complaining, I offer a Thank You to Adobe. And of course all the goodness all over the place, both Premiere and other apps make me giddy.

Kevin L

You can do the same thing by highlighting a clip then go to the effect controls window and control-click the attributes you want, then copy them

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"THAT'S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine... But after this windmill it's the future or bust."

THANKS!

I am first and foremost using Premiere Pro because I can just drop my AVCHS files from my Panasonic TM900 and Sony A55 cameras, and not be bothered with pre-processing as in FCP 7 (haven't tried FCP X yet - don't want to corrupt any libraries that I made need to turn to with older FCP 7 projects).

I am exporting 2 hour-long projects tonight, then I will pursue your tips in full.

The big turning point is if I can work through the paste attributes correlation so I can build my motion menus the way I am used to in FCP 7.

The other thing I am needing to work through is Encore. It is such a visual headache compared to DVDSP.

the flowchart is so rigid in terms of being able to drag around to make something sensible. I posted in another thread http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/145/871392#871394 if you'd like to join.

Thanks again,

Do you author DVDs.

I think my huge obstacle course will be Encore.

How did you ever deal with the insanity of Encore, when DVDSP was/is so visually intuitive?

One thing killing my progress with Encore is the empty menus/buttons library(s).

My DVD menus are usually 6 video clips as windows scaled down to about 20% each, with 20-seconds of moving video:

* 2 rows of 3 across
* 6 text boxes with 1-2 words naming the scene, under each video window
- 1 text box for "play" and 1 text box for name of the DVD

I make that in FCP, export as a 20-second .mov, then 3 of them as a 60-second .mov.

Drop it into DVDSP as the background of a menu, draw the transparent "buttons" over the 6 video windows, plus "play"... Set the selected/activated colors and target for each button, start of track for "play", and then each chapter for each button over video windows...

The DVDSP flowchart is flexible, you can make several rows, and the arrows follow.

So far, Encore is a stubborn mule when it comes to doing this GUI.

My menu and button libraries are empty, came that way, on Adobe forums there others screaming that their's were empty, too.

I called twice to get my $49.99 Creative Cloud subscription. The first woman couldn't help, transferred me to India. Two transfers there. They asked 100 questions about who I was. I hung up and got a guy in southern US, who set me up in 3 minutes.

i fear I will need to call back. Glad Creative Cow is here for us, in Adobe's delusional absence.

I like Apple software, where you don't need a manual to use options/commands in the nav bar(s).

Nick Baer "How did you ever deal with the insanity of Encore, when DVDSP was/is so visually intuitive?"

I know Encore has its issues, but I could never switch to DVDSP after using it- not entirely anyway. Look at my avatar and you'll know why...

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"THAT'S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine... But after this windmill it's the future or bust."