HDV round trip PPro AE Problems....

	HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Alex Udell on Jul 1, 2009 at 2:01:47 pm Hi All.. In CS3, if I use HDV on a timeline then I try to use the any of the advanced worflow features: Copy and paste from a PPro Timeline to an AE comp Import PPro Sequence to AE I have the following problem... After Effects will create layers based on the media The Media will be positioned and offset in the AE comp The layers will use the right source files, BUT It WON'T use the right frames which essentially makes the feature useless in this workflow. This seems to be extended into my Matrox workflows, using MPeg2I Frame HD files and Matrox DVCProHD files. Someone had mentioned before that it's more of an AE issue as AE doesn't like media that's based on a GOP frame structure. I wondering if this issue is resolved in the CS4 version of PPro and AE? Or if someone could suggest an alternative workflow? The team I'm working with would really prefer to do final tweaks to color, masking and matting in AE... So I'm trying to employ a workflow to successfully move the PPro Sequences to AE. The other thing to note, is that as this is a longer form project, I'm considering the extra ram of a Vista 64 configuration to be more valuable in this instance. Your feedback and assistance is much appreciated. Thanks, Alex Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Eric Jurgenson on Jul 1, 2009 at 8:14:23 pm Alex, I'd say either capture your HDV as I-frame MPEG, or convert and replace in Premiere before pasting into AE. I think AE CS4 is a bit better at handling HDV than CS3, but it still is going to do a better job with frame-based media. Now that Matrox has come out with their 4.1 beta drivers, which support accelerated export through AME, there is less reason to stick with CS3. I'm liking the added stability and speed of CS4 with 64-bit Vista. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Ann Bens on Jul 1, 2009 at 8:24:05 pm I do my CC through Dynamic Link (replace with AE comp) But is this option available with the Matrox, because it works realy fine. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Alex Udell on Jul 1, 2009 at 8:37:21 pm Hi Ann, While can get this to work with DV material, Yestrday's test indicate that I am having the same trouble with Matrox MPEG 2 I frame HD and Matrox DVCPro HD codecs. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Thanks... Alex Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Alex Udell on Jul 1, 2009 at 8:35:23 pm Hi Eric... Test I ran yesterday indicate that I have the same issue with MPEG 2 I frame HD and Matrox DVCPro HD source material under CS3. Your thoughts? Alex Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Eric Jurgenson on Jul 1, 2009 at 9:00:44 pm Alex, So you are saying that the clips that import into AE are offset from the Premiere originals, i.e. different clip in and out points? Does it take the beginning of the clip as the in, or is it random? Is it way off, or is it close? Are you importing a Premiere project into AE, using Dynamic Link, or copying and pasting between apps? I don't think I am having that issue, but let me check it out in the AM. System is currently tied up with an export. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Alex Udell on Jul 1, 2009 at 9:33:35 pm Hi Eric... If you look at the After Effects timeline... There are clips, they are positioned in time on the after effects timeline in the right places... but the in's and out's of the sources are wrong... not sure if it's consistent or random Suppose I should do some window burn clips as a test...won't be back on an Axio until at least tomorrow... This has happened to me on multiple machines....so I know it's not just a machine config issue...All of it has been under CS3 though. Alex Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Eric Jurgenson on Jul 2, 2009 at 7:30:45 pm Alex, Not much time today, but I'm noticing some wierdness when importing clips with transitions (dissolves, dip to black) screwing up the in points on clips copied and pasted into AE. I seem to heve better luck with cuts staying in sync. The timing seems to be within a second or so, so maybe AE has a hard time calculating ins and outs on transition-connected clips? I'll check things out more completely later when I have a bit more time. Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Alex Udell on Jul 2, 2009 at 9:00:15 pm Interesting.... I may a shot at it tomorrow....I'll try a bit as well and throw in my .02. thanks Eric... Alex Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index

	Re: HDV round trip PPro AE Problems.... by Alex Udell on Jul 3, 2009 at 3:59:36 pm Hi Eric and All.. I window burned a clip as Matrox Mpeg 2 I frame HD and Matrox Mpeg Uncompressed HD 8 bit I can not get the right frames to come over from Premiere via Copy & Paste. It always chooses the head of the clip. I'm kind of out of ideas..... Alex Respond to this post   •   Return to posts index