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PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Jack Kelly on Jul 13, 2007 at 11:58:45 am

Hi there,

As we all know, CS3 includes a cool new time-remapping feature. The presence of this new feature might suggest that PPro CS3's handling of interlaced video has been improved. So my question is: does CS3 now include an "intelligent" de-interlacing system which uses motion compensation to interpolate the missing vertical resolution (like many of the de-interlace filters used in aviSynth)? Or does de-interlacing in PPro CS3 still halve your vertical resolution?

Many thanks,
Jack

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Tim Kolb on Jul 13, 2007 at 1:23:44 pm

Hi Jack,

Deinterlacing on speed changes (slo mo, time remap) is now the same as AE...which is far better than what PPro had before...which was not very good.



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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Blast1 on Jul 13, 2007 at 7:08:28 pm


Hi Tim:
Do you know how the deinterlacing now compares to something like the deinterlacer that comes with Resizer?

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Jack Kelly on Jul 13, 2007 at 7:18:04 pm

Hi Blast1,

If I may be so bold, I'd like to jump in here.

In terms of comparing PPro's de-interlacing with other systems, I've just spent the day comparing PPro 2.0's de-interlacing with aviSynth's de-interlacing:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=711674#post711674

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Blast1 on Jul 13, 2007 at 7:54:42 pm

Thanks for the info, interesting about the p project, I'm more concerned in de-interlacing DV WS prior to upscaling for use in HDV projects.

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Tim Kolb on Jul 14, 2007 at 5:17:03 am

One would need to compare CS3 and Resizer I suppose, PPro CS2 is simply not as good.

I use Instant HD occasionally...but I've done no specific testing on it.



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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Blast1 on Jul 14, 2007 at 10:01:55 pm

[Tim Kolb] "compare CS3 and Resizer"
Thats what I was wondering if someone had done, I've seen a comparison between Instand HD and Resizer1 with footage deinterlaced in AFX, they were fairly close, since Resizer 2 is shipping with its own deinterlacer I was curious if the one in CS3 was as good.

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Marcus van Bavel on Jul 14, 2007 at 2:03:55 pm

You might look at DVFilm Maker which can

1) deinterlace intelligently and also
2) smooth the 4:1:1 chroma to 4:4:4
3) enlarge to 1440 x 1080 anamorphic

in one step. It can also batch process clips.

Here is a comparison test between conventional
editing system deinterlacing and DVFilm Maker
http://dvfilm.com/maker/MakerVegas.htm




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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Blast1 on Jul 14, 2007 at 10:02:50 pm

Hi Marcus
Thanx for the info, but I didn't see anything about 30p or 60p just 24p, I was more interested in video vice film

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Marcus van Bavel on Jul 15, 2007 at 2:53:45 am

Maker does 60i to 30P as well as 24P.



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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by dixie.fever on Jul 17, 2007 at 9:50:20 am

Has anybody had any experience with the Alparysoft deinterlace filter plug-in for premiere?




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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Blast1 on Jul 17, 2007 at 9:14:44 pm

I've seen it on the net, but wouldn't touch it, its country of origin is .ru

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by dixie.fever on Jul 18, 2007 at 7:15:04 am

Why wouldn't you touch it?
I thought of giving the demo a try, I would really love a good deinterlacer that works as a PP 2.0 plugin and not as standalone or via avisynth. Are there any other alternatives?



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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Jack Kelly on Jul 18, 2007 at 2:29:07 pm

Oooh, thanks for the heads-up on that Alparysoft plug-in. That looks interesting - I might give it a shot later this afternoon.

The blurb seems to suggest that it does some clever motion compensation.

Regarding whether or not it's safe to download Russian software - I understand that a lot of spam and viruses come from Russian computer users but I'd suggest that it's a little far-fetched to suggest that you shouldn't touch any code written by Russians! Besides, you shouldn't need to worry too much about viruses and malware if you're properly protected.

Thanks,
Jack

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Jack Kelly on Jul 18, 2007 at 4:13:24 pm

Hi,

I've just been tinkering with Alparysoft's de-interlace plug-in for PPro. Some notes:

1) It does seem to do a good job at de-interlacing PAL 50i standard definition DV. It's single-threaded though (so it doesn't make use of multiple processor cores).

2) I can't get it to work with HD content. I've tried HDV .mpeg files and Cineform files. This is a deal-breaker for me. I need it to work with HD.

Thanks,
Jack

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Re: PPro CS3 deinterlacing - does it still drop vertical res by 50%?
by Blast1 on Jul 19, 2007 at 8:09:23 pm

[Jack Kelly] "Regarding whether or not it's safe to download Russian software - I understand that a lot of spam and viruses come from Russian computer users but I'd suggest that it's a little far-fetched to suggest that you shouldn't touch any code written by Russians! Besides, you shouldn't need to worry too much about viruses and malware if you're properly protected."

Viruses and malware are just part of it, there is also spoofing of commerce servers, etc., I don't have time or inclination to verify these, just as there certain sections of cities you avoid if you are prudent, same goes for the internet



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