Attention resolve 8 beta users.

Having fun with 8 so far and I'd also love to know if anyone is doing any Alpha work........

I just received a Pro Res 4444 with an Alpha channel but as yet can't find a way to view it as a separate element, is this possible? Or do I need a Matte supplied as well??

Also has anyone had any issues with playing back 25PsF MXF files? Mine plays for a bit then the dreaded spinning wheel of death hangs my system!

Cheers

Danny

Love the stabilizer ! Love the whole effortless XML import , playing with denoise and trying to make sense of the new balance grader .
Runs very stable , havnt patched my Decklink yet though.
Wonder if we will see new Wave mapped controls too, adjusting noise threshold with the pen is very difficult .

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Hi,

Do you know where we can download the beta version ?

thanks

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A good question thibault- I sometimes feel like the only person here not testing v8 beta

The beta programme is closed to a number of select users worldwide, yes I admit theres alot of them on here, but this is a large community of experienced users so its not too surprising :)

IMO

The new version answers most, if not all, of the questions posed when V7 went live. The features we're seeing today have been pined after by long term Linux users for years and I'm expecting new users to be just as excited as they are.

In particular - workflow with other finishing tools is brilliant, dropping new shots in and out is great, XML EDl AAF etc all work fine, rough cutting for onset is great coupled with the wide format support...

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I've successfully used V8 on 14 jobs in the past month with only a few minor hiccups that have been addressed in each beta build.

The Highlights for me are.

Denoiser - takes a little finessing but is awesome. One way I've been using it too is as a quick skin softener. Simply put a window around someone and crank up the denoiser. Vs. qualifying and then blurring often works quicker

Stabilizer - one word - awesome!

Curves - Lum vs Sat is awesome for desaturating highlights or shadows, Hue vs Sat great for things like tweaking saturation of grass, water, skies. I'm on the big panel and I also appreciate that the new curves are available direct from the panel.

RGBl Mixer- As Vladimir said awesome for black and white looks. I'm still trying to figure it out a bit for color looks.

3D Auto Align - we've started to do more and more 3D projects and this feature is simply amazing. Click it it take a second and the images are aligned. Super quick.

Conform and XML - to be honest I've kind of forgotten about the Browse Page! With XML it can automatically add that media after you find the first clip and setup your project for you. One cool thing I've discovered is you don't even have to go to the folder with the shot, you can literally just pick the drive and while it will take a while to parse it does find everything. XML out works like a charm too. The edit functions in the Conform page are also pretty awesome for reediting a section making cuts etc.

The FCP presets in the render page in FCP compatibility option are also nice add ons

The only thing (probably obvious to most) that took me a second to figure out is on multi - layer sessions you have to use unmix to see all the layers and grade them.

Peter, Rohit and the team have done an amazing job with this. It also amazes me in Beta everything has been so stable and actually works as advertised!

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Yes, it's getting very frustrating!

I need this version, I can't wait anymore now I know its working great.

Please someone, give me link !!

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Do any of the other beta testers experience significant performance issues with denoise? I assumed its just because the beta is not performance tweaked, but as we get close to release...
I've got 2-GTX285 GPUs in a Cubix. One node of denoise drops playback to 12-14fps.

Otherwise, my findings are as everyone else's: awesome. Just imported a multi-track feature project with XML: ZERO DEFECTS. glory halleluiah. Saves a few days of prep and cleanup.

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I'm personally very pleased the 8.0 beta is going well. Thank you for testing. The team here work day and night to make it as stable as we can.

NR is very GPU intensive and the code is fully optimized. NR will not operate on the OpenCL graphics systems at all. We expect as faster CUDA GPU's from Nvidia become available this will be less noticeable but in the meantime, see if NR Radius setting 3 is enough to reduce the noise as this is a sweet spot for the Mac.
Linux uses with the new 4 or 8 GPUs can have multiple 2K NR nodes in real time. We don't try to make the Mac slower and there is no difference in software, just the GPUs available for Linux have more CUDA cores.
Peter

Paul, what GPU setup are you running on your system?

Aha, interesting. I am running single 285 + 120 for UI off of internal software RAID, and can't get realtime denoising. (22fps at radius 4, 13.5fps at radius 3)

Do you have a 3rd GPU for GUI, or do you have the displays plugged into one of the 285s?

Well the math for that certainly sounds like it makes sense - double the GPU, double the performance.

What's interesting though is that even your beefy system can't go below 3-radius.

The interactivity is what I really need in a client session.
They are fine if I can solve it right away with half speed playback.
Otherwise it turns into a VFX shot and need to be send to that department.
Both is ok, but having it in Resolve is fantastic.

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Sorry Jake, I won't accuse you anymore, please forgive my dullness )).

Not sure if a new MacPro will impact denoise as much as more powerful Cuda cards. And I believe that Peter has said as much.

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Yep the GTX480 will make a big improvement to be sure

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Thanks Mike for your feedback. We are quite close to release but Im pleased to say we did get the offline wipe and mix modes back in. They will appear on the offline viewer while still maintaining the synced Timeline view. There are a number of additional XML features including the effects you mention which we will get to in time. We understand the clear benefit of having these effects natively in Resolve so colorists can use their source files at full res. We welcome requests for additional features for the future.
Peter

"NR will not operate on the OpenCL graphics systems at all"

Does that mean that if I want to run Resolve 8 on a iMac with ATI graphics card, I will not be able to use NR at all?

I'm very much waiting for the release of version 8!

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Hey Daren,

As you asked specifically about Alpha channel features, I can comment.

I just completed 86 greenscreen vfx shots in Resolve. In 4 hours. Yeah, I'm using Resolve for keying and compositing.

If I only had a few shots, I might have pre-graded in resolve, and used after effects and keylight to key. But I had 86 shots, which all needed motion tracked garbage mattes. It was actually better and faster to do the composites and keying in resolve. I built my keys with the panel, which was much faster to clean and preview. I used the motion tracker to build fast garbage mattes. I was previewing everything almost in realtime, and color graded the plates to match perfectly.

I always hoped to one day do compositing in Resolve, but never thought it would actually happen this soon.

Thanks Blase,

I have a few questions.. Shall I email them to you???


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Pretty simple..

Import an XML of media
- greenscreen on v2, background plate on v1.

On the GS layer, add a few parallel nodes.
- Top will be grade for GS,
- middle will be spill suppress layer
- bottom will be base for alpha key

Right click in node graph to add an alpha output
- little rectangle appears on right of node graph

Create a matte from the greenscreen
- pull greenscreen on your bottom node,
- combine alphas of multiple nodes if necessary
- map matte output of those nodes to alpha output

Remove green spill as necessary
- on the middle node, pull a very liberal key on the greenscreen
- use the curves - saturation tool to correct for spill

You now have your plates comp'd color grade them to match accordingly.
The key doesn't do as well with hair, but for my shots it was fine. Of course you could simply use this technique as a temporary way to grade the plates and foreground, and still do your final comp as an effect.

here's the result of my shots..

http://www.contact-di.com/clients/benjamin/vfx_preview_web.mov

Cheers,
Blase