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Transfer/Blend Modes as a Resolve Feature

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Denver RiddleTransfer/Blend Modes as a Resolve Feature
by on Dec 17, 2010 at 10:36:12 pm

Who would be or how many people would be interested in BlackMagic adding transfer/blend layer modes to Resolve as a feature. I know I would.

Cheers,
Denver Riddle


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Christopher TayRe: Transfer/Blend Modes as a Resolve Feature
by on Dec 18, 2010 at 3:02:42 am

Like...everybody :)

I've been asking for it...don't stop asking that's all I can say :)

-chrispy


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Blase Theodoreunlikely to happen
by on Dec 19, 2010 at 1:28:21 pm

This brings up the bigger question of "what do you do with blending in a single track timeline?
Unless you're only interested in blending an image with itself, the everyday use of blending modes is with more than 1 layer of content. And resolve does one layer.

I suppose you could bring them into an EDL as a clip with a 100% duration dissolve, and then have Davinci treat it as a constant dissolve effect, but not sure even then how that would work.


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Illya LaneyRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 2:44:13 am

Blase Theodore
"Unless you're only interested in blending an image with itself,"

I was under the impression that this is how most colorists/VFX artists use blending modes. People want the same functionality as the Nattress Plugins for Color. What were you thinking of?

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Gabriele TurchiRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 1:52:33 pm

i agree with alex ,

the opacity node in itself (plus dynamic available on it ) is what i am missing more in the resolve color tool .. sometimes we push a node to much and easier way to bring back is to reduce the opacity of that node ...
from 100 to 0 ...like photoshop , scratch etc...
g


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Rohit GuptaRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 2:11:15 pm

This is already available. In the Key tab, Post Mix gain I think it is called. 0% will turn OFF the effect of that node completely.


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Gabriele TurchiRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 2:28:50 pm

Even if the is no key involved ?
Thanks


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Blase Theodoregains of using blending mode
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 2:50:14 pm

I guess the question for me is what is to be gained by using a blending mode on itself?

Can someone please give an example of when you'd actually need to use it? I make HEAVY use of blending modes in multi layer content like AE, Photoshop, etc, but have never seen a need for them in grading. Is there a specific example you can reference that couldn't be done without it, or would be slower to do without?


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Christopher TayRe: gains of using blending mode
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 3:22:38 pm

Actually you can get some interesting effects by blending onto itself using modes like Screen or Overlay and then varying the opacity between the two layers. I don't have any examples to share but I've used it before on a different grading system which has blend modes and it was quite useful.

But if we can do both - onto itself and with a different clip - that would be really fantastic !

-chrispy


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Blase TheodoreRe: gains of using blending mode
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 3:44:41 pm

I don't know. I think blending modes may operate in a different way, and thus create a mental distinction when you think about them, but I have yet to come to a result that was any different or better by using them.

I think they are a computationally sloppy way to get to the same thing. You're making the machine process 2 copies of the image, just to get more saturated reds in the midtones, or richer shadows or something.

I am only making my case as a chance to be disproven and learn something. But this is where I stand now.


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Illya LaneyRe: gains of using blending mode
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 6:59:48 pm

Using a blur with a curve and a screen blend will get you some interesting glowing highlights. Combine that with windows, gain control, color washes, etc. for any number of combinations and that's just one example. It's all about your imagination and how much time you have to experiment.

You could just use a luma key to get glows, but blending modes provide you with more options and different looks.

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Rohit GuptaRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 3:15:10 pm

yes


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Denver RiddleRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 20, 2010 at 5:48:01 pm

You can create all kinds of different creative looks with blend modes, plus solve some technical problems. Photoshop artists have been using them for a long time to create different looks. Blending modes effectively change the arithmetic of how images are processed. As already pointed out Assimilate Scratch offers blending modes as well as Nucoda Film Master.


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Glenn SakatchRe: unlikely to happen
by on Dec 21, 2010 at 7:58:36 pm

I use blending modes all the time in Avid DS- on one source shot.

I create homemade Bleach looks with a regular version, a black and white version and a color version of a single shot, all blending together for a beautiful bleach look that you have almost total control over.

Glenn


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