| Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime?
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 | Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime?
by Ola Haldor Voll on Mar 7, 2012 at 11:49:34 am |
I'm sitting on the fence here. If Apple won't make a workstation with more internal PCI slots, I see no point in upgrading to a new Mac Pro. I currently have a 2009 2 x Quad 2.26GHz - it does the jobs well.
Cubix expander with a couple of GTX 570s or 580s? Or should I go for a SuperMicro with a Quadro for GUI and a few 580s for processing?
The price of the SuperMicro+GPUs is tempting. But I have no other experience with Resolve for Windows except for the beta at my home PC with a single GTX560Ti.
Have anyone started using Resolve on Windows? Any problems? Any bumps in the road? Are you using the suggested mother board/Z800/SuperMicro as mentioned in the Config Guide?
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• • | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Ola Haldor Voll on Mar 7, 2012 at 2:14:53 pm |
I've established contact with a reseller who's got the SuperMicro 7046GT-TRF
- Two six-core X5650 2.66GHz
- 48GB RAM (it was set to this as default before configuration!)
- PNY Quadro 4000
- Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
- SATA 8 port RAID controller (RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10)
About $7,5K + VAT and shipping.
GTX580 and internal RAID comes on top of this, and that's about another $2,5K here.
I don't think that's too bad, really.
One of my biggest concerns are ProRes input/output. I love the codec. 99% of all my jobs are delivered to me and expected to be delivered back in any of the ProRes types.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Juan Salvo on Mar 7, 2012 at 2:39:11 pm |
You do definitely have prores decode. Encode appeared briefly on the beta, but I don't believe is back yet. Might have been a glimpse into what to expect in v9? For the 7.5k you'd invest in supermicro you could easily get a fully populated cubix. How many pcie slots does that config have?
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Ola Haldor Voll on Mar 7, 2012 at 3:06:06 pm |
Here's the specs I've been given.
4 (x16) PCI-E 2.0,
2 (x4) PCI-E 2.0 (in x16 and x8 slots),
1 (x4) PCI-E (in x16 slot),
2 32-bit PCI slots
In my example, after I've installed a Quadro 4000 and two GTX580s, I'm left with
1 (x16) PCI-E 2.0,
2 (x4) PCI-E 2.0 (in x16 and x8 slots),
1 (x4) PCI-E (in x16 slot),
2 32-bit PCI slots
As far as I can see from photos of the casing, it should be possible to install four double width PCI cards.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Mike Most on Mar 7, 2012 at 4:20:52 pm |
Until very thorny and unpredictable legal questions are answered regarding the open source Prores codec, don't expect to see Prores encoding in Resolve on any platform other than the Mac.
In other words, don't hold your breath and don't move to Windows expecting that you will have Prores encoding now or in the future.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Margus Voll on Mar 7, 2012 at 4:57:48 pm |
I would wait it out a bit. Cubix is relatively cheap compared to full pc setup?
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Jonathon Lee on Mar 7, 2012 at 7:36:07 pm |
I'm in the midst of testing WIndows Resolve. So far so good. I'm doing a 6min Epic short. The system is not certified by a long shot, but it is working well so far. I'm working in proxy mode. The output will be 4k & 2k DCDM, 1080p rec709.
The system is:
HP z400 3.06 GHZ w/24GB
win7/64
SAS LSI RAID-6 controller w/12 not that fast SATA HDD's
(1) GTX 285 pulled from a mac!
Quadro 600
BMD Decklink HD Dual-link
So far so good. I've not done a scientific test, but it seems to be a bit snappier then the 8-core 2010 2.4GHZ that I was using. I'm going to install a GTX 570 in that mac and use it for conforming.
The new z820 looks amazing... 3x Gen 3 slots.. wonder if there will be new cards that have better performance?
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Aaron Hayden on Mar 7, 2012 at 9:48:45 pm |
For the past 3 weeks I've been coloring 43 minutes of material a day on a windows box. I started with the recommend Supermicro system and build it beyond their specs.
- 2 x5690 @ 3.47 xeon processors
- 24 gigs of ram
- 1 quadro 4000 for gui
- 3 EVGA Classifeid GTX 580 cards for GPU
- 5 drive internal raid (windows raid 0) for local storage
- SSD drive for system disk
- Decklink SDI for video out, my projects are all finished in HD and i had the card laying around.
- 4g atto Fiber card for connection to Unity 5 server
- Davinci Resolve BMD color panel
It runs Da Vinci like a BEAST! I can have 6 serial nodes with blur, power windows and noise reduction on all of them and still get 30 fps. All my media is dnxhd 220x with some phantom cine files, so I imagine performance would be even greater using DPX files, less decoding work for the CPUs.
Only downside is computer also doubles as a space heater and sounds like a leaf blower. Any room I put it in raises the temperature by ten degrees. The GPU cards are packed in the case very tight and I have to manual increase the fan speed on the cards to keep them from overheating. Plan on getting their recommend DVI and USB extension cables.
It took a couple weeks of testing to get the Avid roundtrip workflow down. The round trip works perfectly as long as your sequence prep is perfect. All in all I love the system and so glad to never be forced to color in Symphony Nitris ever again.
Aaron Hayden
Colorist
Gurney Productions
ahayden@gurneyproductions.com
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Ola Haldor Voll on Mar 8, 2012 at 2:43:56 pm |
Heat and noise are two big concerns for me. Even though I've got much more space now than before, heat can be an issue.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Eric Fiegehen on Mar 9, 2012 at 8:30:12 pm |
Keep in mind that heat is the enemy of all electronic circuits. Using the Xpander separates your CPU, memory, and disk components from hot GPUs and maximizes your new system's life cycle.
Eric
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Michael Jordan on Mar 8, 2012 at 12:26:18 am |
Lately I've been doing a good 90% of my jobs on a Windows box with no regrets. Performance far exceeds what I was seeing on the Mac, and it has been every bit as stable for me. The only thing holding us back is the occasional need to render out to ProRes. As previously mentioned, we had this ability on an earlier beta and it got me really excited, but it seems to be gone for now.
"Are you using the suggested mother board/Z800/SuperMicro as mentioned in the Config Guide?"
Not really. I'm running two GTX 580, latest stable nvidia drivers, 16GB RAM, Decklink Studio. Other guys are running very different setups.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Pat Horridge on Mar 10, 2012 at 6:35:43 pm |
We're setting up a Z800 with Quadro 4000 and GTX 580 card and it really flies.
I think the days of Mac work horses are near the end and Apples going to concentrate on the mobile devices with the faster turnover and get even richer.
And thankfully Avids DNxHD codec is slowly replacing ProRes. More and more kit is offering DNxHD as well as ProRes. Apples attempt to lock the post business into only Apple hardware ensured ProRes was never going to be a universal codec.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Robert Ruffo on Mar 13, 2012 at 7:13:22 am |
But networks still often request Prores as a deliverable, and none refuse it (among those who accept file-based final output - which is most these days, soon all.)
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Ola Haldor Voll on Mar 13, 2012 at 7:40:09 am |
Yup that's the situation here too. Anything I deliver, they want ProRes. Never heard of anyone here want anything else, except XDCAM HD, but that's one in a million kind of.
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• | | | |  | Re: Anyone started using Windows Resolve fulltime? by Pepijn Klijs on Apr 5, 2012 at 6:30:38 am |
Hi Michael,
What kind of motherboard are you using?
Avid/FCP Editor, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.pepijnklijs.nl
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