splitting MVC files

Is there any way to split a 3D MVC file into two separate (left/right) video files?

Thanks
Charles

Hi Michael,

consumer 3D cameras like JVC and Sony use this file format to store videos data. I wonder how to edit this files with a professional software. Any ideas how to split it?

Charles

Hi Michael,

the problem is that I am a cameraman an not an editor. I don’t have the time to learn how Sony Vegas works and how it “might” be possible to extract two data streams from the Sony MVC file. So is there no one that could at least tell me “Yes/ No” with Sony Vegas?

Charles

HI All.

We are having the exact same problem working with footage shot with our new Sony HDR-TD10. We can see MVC files that show as 2D but no way to split them up for editing or even display them outside of the camera. I plan to call Sony next. We are Mac based so Vegas isn't an option.

Rob

Hi Michael,

i have the Sony HDR-TD10 also and we were in the same situation saying WTF, how do we get the 3D files off of the camera.

We ended up trying Vegas Pro 10d, and it does work, but i dont like the interface at all, very clunky and far from what i use on our MAC systems, but it does the job, you load the MTS files which have some kind of connection with the MVC files in the main folder structure which loads in the 3D files, at that point, we solo'd the track we wanted to export and did so. So Vegas does the job and gives you a choice on what codec to use which is great.

The other App from 3Dtv.at also works, with both positive and negative issues:
Positive: past and easy, just load the files in and straight export, no need for a full editing suite, just a compression software.
Negative: no choice of output codec other than the AVI default, i hate AVI, need a solution for MAC:)

Peter Wimmer has a MVC to AVI prototype converter here: http://www.3dtv.at/Downloads/MVCConverter010_en.msi . It will produce two AVI streams from the MVC (MPEG stream or MP4 file) and it will not work directly on MAC, but it is a step to separate the two streams out of the single MVC stream. The AVI streams can be subsequently converted. This converter currently is at beta level. The converter only works under windows. Some additional information from Peter:

"The MVC to AVI Converter converts MPEG Transport Streams (*.mts, *.ssif) or MP4
files containing 3D video data encoded with the H.264 MVC codec to two
uncompressed AVI files, one AVI file for the left and one for the right view.

Click 'File|Add Files' to add an MVC file to the batch list, then click
'File|Start Conversion' to convert all files in the batch list to AVI format.
The AVI files are stored in the same folders as the MVC files. The 'Left' or
'Right' suffix is added to the AVI filenames.

The audio track is only decoded if the ffdshow Audio Decoder is installed."

I am just starting to work in Stereoscopic 3D, also with my Sony TD10.

Wimmer's MVC to AVI converter has not been very useful to me, because the data size of any file grows literally 100X, when translated to AVI. For example, a 100MB .m2ts file converted to 2X5GB AVI files. That means that 10GB of footage would transcode to 1TB!

At first, to get around that, I was creating selects, using Wimmer's Stereoscopic Viewer to see the footage, and then Sony's file management software PMB (packaged with the TD10) to trim the files, without changing their codec.

However, after monkeying around with all of this for a couple weeks, the best workflow seems to be to just stick with Vegas. I'm an FCP editor, so it's taking some adjusting, but Vegas handles both the .m2ts format of the TD10, and (theoretically) the Cineform package of the GoPro 3D rig I just bought.

Hopefully, FCP and/or Avid will start cutting .m2ts files natively before too long, but in the meantime, learning Vegas seems like the most elegant solution I've found. Just another reason why Stereoscopic 3D is forcing me to consider migrating from Mac to PC.

Hello Antonio.
to convert sony td10 footage into 3dbluray disc.
1) Create a project with these project settings (File /Properties..)
a) if using PAL/NTSC then width=1920 height 1080, field order none (progressive)
B)Frame has to be DOUBLE PAL (50fps) or DOUBLE NTSC (60fps)- this is very important otherwise it will render in 2D only.
c)Stereoscopic 3D mode can be anyformat but NOT OFF. This must not be set OFF. any other format has no bearing on the final bluray output.
d)IMport your td10 clips on the timeline. Check in the project window that the properties for files reads "pair with next stream". ie when you right clip on a media and click properties the stereoscopic 3d mode should be "pair with next stream".
e) edit as usual. if you want to put chapter points on the disc then hit M on the timeline for eacg marker.
f) To render the 3d bluray disc, goto tools/burn disc/burn bluray disc. In the video template you should only see 3 settings, use the 1280x720 settings (either 50fps for pal or 60fps for ntsc). I personally do not use the 1920x1080 (24fps) as this creates a lag in one eye when there is a scene change and you are using a passive 3d display.
g) If you keep your timeline under 2 hours you can create an iso image to fill a 25gb bluray.
h) Once the iso is created, using nero or image burn or any other program that burns iso image files to disc.

If there are any errors in these instructions please free to contribute

@Zahoor Sakharkar. I am intrigued by your post. I have just bought a Sony TD10E (shall we say on an impulse). I have not yet done anything with the camcorder. But I surely would like to keep all information at hand.

You have not mentioned which software you would use to convert the movies shot by the TD10E to Blu Ray format.

No, the only alternative I have found is still the PC app:

http://3dtv.at/Products/MvcConverter/Index_en.aspx

Otherwise, the Pixela application you mention is the only other Mac software I've found.

~Michael



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