Final Cut Pro Metadata
by Christina Crawley
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Jul 7, 2008 at 6:04:45 pm
Hi all,
I want to add the pre existing Final Cut Pro Metadata group to a custom or Media metadata set. This is apparently a comlicated task.
I created a new Metadata set. The only groups available to add to the set are "custom" groups. The Final Cut Pro Metadata group itself is not editable. Anyway to duplicate that group as a copy to modify and save as custom? I tried to create a custom Metadata group using all the Final Cut Pro Metadata fields but -gasp- I can only add CUSTOM metadata fields to my custom Metadata group.
Also, when I go to create a new Metadata Map, I don't have any of my custom created fields available.
I'M THE ADMIN!
My head hurts and I'm angry.
Is the only option to create my own custom metadata group where all the fields are mapped to the Final Cut Pro metadata? I HAVE TO DO THAT? May I do that? Why can't I use what is already there?! Am I missing something?
Re: Final Cut Pro Metadata by Andre Simons on Jul 9, 2008 at 2:20:10 am
I assume you mean the "Final Cut Pro Logging" metadata group. This is a special group like the "XMP_Core" metadata group. It is file metadata not asset metadata. I know the group says the category is "Asset Metadata", but that is clearly an error - it should say "Final Cut Pro Metadata". What this means is it has a special interpretation - it is metadata that is extracted from a file format and copied into FCSVR. You can't add it to other groups because the file aspect of it would confuse FCSVR. For the same reason the fields can't be added to groups.
Why do you want to add this to media metadata set anyway?
As for maps - there is bug - metadata fields are not visible to Metadata Maps until you log out of FCSVR and log back in.
The main purpose of metadata maps is to set up movement of file metadata into custom metadata fields and vice versa. However, I don't know if this is useful in the case of Final Cut Pro Metadata because those fields are associated with elements and I don't know in what case the map would get invoked.
Re: Final Cut Pro Metadata by Christina Crawley on Jul 9, 2008 at 2:54:40 pm
Hi Andre, thanks for your reply!
I'm currently executing Final Cut Server to operate as a tape library catalog. I logged many tapes with lots of info and I was under the impression that my log and capture info entered in Final Cut Pro would carry over to Final Cut Server. I read the previous post about SEARCHING the log and capture metadata, but I want it built into my asset's metadata. That is the goal. And I'm having no such luck.
Specifically I would like to make a FCSrv group containing the FCP info: Log note, Scene, Shot/Take, Reel, and Description.
I understand the difference between file metadata and asset data, so thanks for verifying that the "Final Cut Pro Logging" metadata group is off limits to me. HOWEVER, each of those fields are available to me in the Metadata mapping window. And as you said, "The main purpose of metadata maps is to set up movement of file metadata into custom metadata fields." So I've been trying to map the FCP metadata fields of description, scene, etc to CUSTOM metadata fields that I've created to mirror those from FCP.
I've setup these maps, put them into a custom group, the group shows up with the asset set - but no info is in the field. I re-analyze the asset, re-upload the asset, but still no luck.
My theory is that FCSrv is only seeing a Quicktime movie brought in from the finder. It can't see the FCP log and capture metadata associated with it. This seems illogical, though, because any clip captured from Final Cut Pro can be brought into an ambiguous FCP project and still HAVE the associated metadata visible/accessible. Why no such luxury with Final Cut Server?
Could there be a work around with exporting the XML file from Final Cut Pro containing all the metadata and taking that into Final Cut Server somehow? Would that have to be done with scripting? Anybody know some command line / terminal process to take that FCP XML data and associate it with a FCSrv asset?
- Christina
Sidenote: Thanks Andre for verifying the bug issue. I also noticed a bug with general administration tasks - must close and reopen Administration window for some items to refresh.
Re: Final Cut Pro Metadata by Andre Simons on Jul 11, 2008 at 4:07:14 am
Hey Christina,
Logging data is not associated with movies. Or rather, there is not just one set of data. The log data like scene or comment is in the FCP project and is part of the browser clip not the movie. To see this, in FCP import a movie and then import the same movie again. You end up with two items in the browser and you can set their scene and comment data independently. Do you do this? - probably not - but FCP and FCSVR have to handle it.
I haven't found any way within FCSVR to grab that data and push it into an asset. You could, probably, with a good bit of work grab that data from the FCP XML, but it would be better to try to grab it out of the FCSVR postgres database. It already has it extracted and knows the which asset is related to that element.
