Sony Vegas Pro 9 - Rendering sped up .mts files

It sounds like you're having interlace problems. Please post a screen shot of your Project Video Properties and your Render Video Properties so we can see if something isn't set correctly.

~jr

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Also after I rendered the original to progressive

In media info it does show
Scan type :Progressive
but
Scan order :Bottom field first
and
Compression mode: Lossy

Perhaps that helps..

Frame rate PF25

Here's a snap of mediainfo on the original clip. Perhaps this could help you further. And thank you for trying to help me, Im sure it's a small thing that im overlooking, hopefully.

Here's the snap.

I changed it, the preview plays nice with all settings, but render cant find a way to render it with good quality

Most of them ...Media server, youtube, DVD, vimeo. I really cant find a way to fix the quality. This is a really annoying problem.

Ill try that, but can you tell me a reason why it plays properly in preview but horribly when rendered ? Cant I do straight render from the preview ?

It's only now that I notice, my whole thread is named wrong. It should be Sony Vegas Pro 10.0c Build 469. Since I ment Sony Vegas Pro 10,I am very sorry. I do have Sony Vegas Pro 11 too. But I haven't had time to get familiar with it yet.

I tried Sony Vegas Pro 11, result is still the same, only difference i now it looks just as bad in preview as it does when rendered. Only thing that makes it mostly watchable is lowering frame rate to 12.000(half film). Really is it not possible to render the video when it's sped up ?

You never answered my question:

If you render the footage without changing the speed with velocity envelopes i.e., just drop the raw camera footage on to the timeline of a project using Interpolate Frames and render to Sony AVC using the Internet HD 1080p template, how does the render look? Is it still bad?

~jr

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[Sander Somma] "Sony Vegas 10, it looks good, but dosnt let me change the bitrate to 25."

So the footage renders fine if you don't add a velocity envelope. I'd say it's the velocity change that's likely causing the problem.

[Sander Somma] "SOny Vegas 11, errors and dosnt let me render with that template"

Do you have any Codec-Paks installed on your PC? (e.g., K-Lite?) You should be getting errors using the standard templates.

~jr

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[Sander Somma] "No codecs installed. And it still looks bad when I do it with streching speed up"

If you're speeding it up, try right-clicking the event and select Disable Resample. That will help if what you are seeing that you don't like is ghosting.

~jr

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And also, Thank you very much. You've really helped Me alot out there.

[Sander Somma] "OH GOD DUDE, Why in the name of science didn't you tell me that SOONER ?????"

Yea, it always seems to be the last thing that you try that finally works. ;-)

Without seeing what you were seeing it was hard to pinpoint what the problem was. Had you said that there was ghosting I would have immediately said disable resample... but you said it was, "the worst quality" and "still horrid" so you didn't give me much to go by.

I'm glad we figured it out.

~jr

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[Sander Somma] "ALso any idea whats the difference and the resamples do ?"

Resampling is used to change the timing of the video by blending frames together to make new frames. So, for example, if you wanted to slow down the video by 1/2 you would have make 30 frames per second last for 2 seconds. Since the video cannot physically play slower, you can double every frame (i.e., show it twice) and that would make the 30 frames into 60 frames so that it lasts 2 seconds. The problem with this is that it can look as if the video is stuttering if you make too many duplicate frames.

- OR -

You can take frame 1 and 2 and blend them together to make a new frame in between. Then take frame 2 and 3 and blend them together to make a new frame in between and keep doing this until you have 60 frames from the original 30. This is called re-sampling because you are taking a sample of two frames to make a new frame that never existed. If the movement in your video isn't too fast, this will look very smooth. But if the movement in your video is too great, this can make it look like a double exposure or ghost. This is what was happening to you.

Hope that makes sense. If not, just ask more questions.

~jr

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