Rendering A Long Movie In Sony Vegas 11

Two hours is really the max I ever try with a DVD, anything more will suffer visual quality. You could try to render out to a Sony MXF format and then let DVD Arch. re-render it for you to see if it looks better, but you are past the general limits for a DVD.

-Jim.

[Jude Alexander] "Unfortunately the director has been trying to cut the movie down and failing. So I think this is the runtime we're stuck with. "

Use a Dual-Layer DVD. An 8.5 GB dual-layer DVD recordable disc can store approximately 4 hours of MPEG-2 video.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

Ok,

I'm mostly focused on getting the file rendered to a size that will fit on a disk.
If I set it to the 720 by 480 resolution, which file type would work best?
And what specific settings should I go with?

Or should I just send it to DVD Architect and Vegas will automatically select the correct settings?

Hi John,
I learned a lot from your VASST DVD. I have used DVDA version 5 & 5.2. Usually I created DVDs with up to 1 hour of contents. The DVD menu may contains scene selections. All materials are rendered in Vegas with DVD architect and AC3 templates. Usually it would takes about 15-20 minutes max from start to finish.
Recently, I dont know what happen but now it takes me some time an hour just to complete the RENDERING before heading toward PREPARING and BURNING steps.
I'm very sure that ALL of my video are encoded in DVD architect & AC3. I noticed that if I take away all the video in the menu so that I have only the text menu in the main menu, then it would take me about 15-20minutes to complete.
I think that somehow DVDA automatically RE-render all of my video even though these video had already been rendered.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thank you, John.

John,

Thank you SO much for your advice! That is exactly what I needed.
I'm buying dual-layer DVDs today and I will let you know how it goes.
Thank you again.

Nigel,

[Nigel O'Neill] "changing your book type to DVD ROM in IMGBurn or Nero for your dual layer discs during the burn phase"

Can you walk me through how I would do this?

Hey Guys,

The rendering went great! Got the file down to 6.3GB and the audio just shy of 200MB
The weird thing now is, when I import it into DVDA, It's telling me the project size is 9.01GB
It recognises that I'm using a Dual Layer disc and even though I know DVDA's size estimates are usually off, it still won't let me burn the movie. Or it will start burning, then say, it needs a 2nd layer break and when I can't insert one-it cancels the whole thing.

Have you guys encountered this before? Is there something in DVDA that adds to the file size?

You might select all & copy & paste this to a document.

Try following one of this youtuber's tutorials.
His main channel page is:

http://www.youtube.com/guerillabill

You can select "Browse videos" then in the search box type in "DVD Architect" to pull up some options for creating your movie on to a disk, also you can shoot him a direct message from your channel to his, to ask any quick questions if you get stuck.

Here is a great one to simplify what you're aiming to do in DVD Architect.







FYI: I'm not a close personal friend of his, but have been using a lot of his tutorials to teach myself video editing in the Sony Vegas Movie Studio program & when I've gotten stuck somewhere, I've sent a quick message & he's sent back an answer in a very short time. My Sony program also has the DVD Architect, but I'm not there yet, I plan to learn that after I've done some heavy video editing & saved 700+ movies to disks on a smaller sized format mainly to watch on my 17+" laptop, not the home TV/DVD setup. When I finish, I'll select the fav's to make a library for that.

Also, I'm not sure if you know this (I just found out last week) but I would pick up a pack of the larger capacity DVD's they now make at the 8.5GB size. This size disk is also GREAT for saving some of the files that clutter your computer in the event you have a PC crash or just want to free some space. You can store your music library, documents, PDF's, photo's & videos there as well. I used a USB to store a ton of stuff & the drive stopped working due to some corruption ugh. (I lost 16GB of data) so from that hard lesson, I've just thrown all my stuff on the larger capacity DVD, then labeled with a sharpie the date & whatever I saved there IE; "music & movies" or whatever I was storing. Plus, until you become seasoned at rendering, it allows you to save some vid's that end up a perfect size & quality that end up a tiny bit over the standard DVD size. I went to a lot of trouble to create a few vids that were the perfect quality, size of dimensions & saw after the render, the GB size over the standard & I didn't have to be an expert at the rendering & creation process. It allowed me some extra leeway which was great.

Price ranges I found (to give you an idea of cost) for the 8.5GB larger capacity DVD:

#25-pack is apx. $24.99 (MicroCenter)
http://www.microcenter.com/product/260003/DVDR_DL_8x_85GB-240_Minute_Disc_2...

or

#50-pack $40.95 (Best Buy)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TDK+-+DVD+Recordable+Media+-+DVD%2BR+DL+-+8x+-+...


I would grab a pack, I'm sure you will use up all of them over time, especially if you plan to continue using that video camera you mentioned that you have. Plus, after knowing how to render & save them, I'm sure this would motivate you to use your video camera more often & save some great memories of whatever you film.

I wish I knew what your movie was of. A wedding? Your family? A concert? Also, how do you want to play it back? On your home TV/DVD setup in your living room or just on your computer? What size is your computer screen? Choosing standard smaller formats are good for screens at or near the 15". If your PC is larger like 17+", then I will share my preferred rendering settings in the Sony Vegas Movie Studio program.

I would use the DVD Architect to create a disk for versatility, that plays both your computer and your home TV/DVD living room setup. But just for compression & saving for computer playback from a disk, these options are specifically for this.

Note: When you are in the “render as” area window, for each item you click on once, look below at the description below it, it should read what that format is best used for. I have a slightly different version of Sony Vegas, but most of this below should come up similarly to my program compared to your Vegas version.

Examples:
These are for computer playback from your CD-Rom disk, in a higher quality format, that should fit on your DVD disk.

1. Select File>Render As
2. Enter in “Name” of your movie/video & the folder you want to save it in.
3. Find “Windows Media Video V11 (.wmv)”
4. Choose the 3 Mbps
5. See below it, the description that should read “Use this setting for high-quality video playback from a CD-Rom. (preset at) Audio: 96 Kbps, 44,100 Hz, 16 Bit Stereo WMA, Vieo: 30 fps, (size) 640x480
6. Keep your selection on the “3 Mbps” then,
7. Scroll down a bit to locate & select the “customize template” button, to pull up a new window of options.
8. Select the tab “Video.”
9. In the “Image” drop down, I would either select the
* (Preset size & quality) at “HD 1280x720” (larger dimensions, quality & size)

OR (my fav settings for computer CD-Rom play back)

My favorite is between the smaller 640x480 & the larger 1280x720 preset size. Here it is:
10. In the “Video” tab, in the drop down, select “Custom”
11. Width: 840
12. Height: 480
13. Go to the tab “Project”
14. Find “Video rendering quality” & select “Best.”
15. Name at the top, the new customization template
(I named it “3 Mbps Custom 840x480 BEST 4 CD Rom.”
16. Click on the right where you entered the custom format name hit the little picture of the floppy disk to save it.

Remember, the best settings for playback from a CD-Rom, aren’t the best render settings for uploading the video to youtube, which you can also make another rendering for if you wish to do so.

For uploading to youtube, I prefer: (with your video in the Sony Vegas a) drag your "MTS" file to the Vegas' "Project Media" area. Then select that dropped media in the project media area & drag it to the timeline beneath area, in the Video & Sound areas.

1. File>Render as
2. MainConcept AVC/AAC (*.mp4)
3. Choose below, Internet HD 720p (size is 1280x720) as a preset option but I think is too large of GB total, so
4. Click on this "Internet HD 720p", then find beneath, the "customize" button & click on it.
5. In the video tab, in the “Frame Size” drop down, I would choose either “Multimedia 480x360” or “Miltimedia wide 640x360” (nice & small) if you like (prefer) either of these.
My fav, is in the "Frame size" choose "custom frame size" in the drop down “854x480” which I find to be perfect in GB size & window size for storing & uploading to youtube.
Just enter in manually Width: 840 & Height: 480

The smaller sizes work fine if all you’re doing it storing the video as a backup & for sharing.

6. Then finish it off in the “Project” tab by dropping down in the “Video rendering quality” by choosing “Best.”
7. Then name this customization at the top as, (my example) the settings info. “Internet HD CustomBEST" (include the dimensions you chose, peek back in the “Video” tab to view what dimensions were that you set up ”____x_____” with any part of that dimensions description like “multimd” “multimdWD” or just “HD”
So the example name:
Internet HD CustomBEST 840x480 /
Internet HD CustomBEST 840x480MultWD

or choose what makes sense for you when naming the template to reuse later.

8. Then click next-to the “template” at the top, where you made the new customized template name, don’t forget to click the tiny picture of the floppy disk, to save your settings. This way, if you love the results & want to sharp shoot your next project, you have one setting for youtube uploading & one for direct CD-Rom playback to your (& others) PC from the disk.

Remember, as you fiddle in the Sony Vegas Movie Studio with the timeline, you can hit the "S" key wherever you want to "split" your video, I would make one test video by splitting off 3/4 or the video & leave about 15 minutes only in the timeline, delete the 3/4 keep the 1/4 (or 15 minutes) then "save as" TEST VIDEO then fiddle with rendering one short video to different formats, then see what size in GB it turns out to be when it's done rendering. Then watch it to see how you like the clarity, window size & file size, without wasting waiting time for rendering the entire 2+ hours only to start over again trying out another setting if you want to test 3 to 4 formats, before choosing which you like best. After creating a few test vids, watch them & choose which look best to you then calculate the total 15 minutes at that size, multiplying your vid length, to come up with the estimation for what size yours will turn out to be after it's finished rendering.

After creating a few different 15 minute test video's & doing the calculations, you will then know, which one is the playback size window & volume of the GB size for the vid's length. Then you're able to choose which one to use as a master for youtube, for Architect & for playback from a disk on the PC.

Also remember that youtuber's channel (maybe subscribe) to keep handy any "how to's" you love best. You can also save some of the favorite "how to" tutorials using the http://www.keepvid.com site, (no downloading the program & it's free) this keepvid allows you to copy any youtube video straight to your computer. If you use this (I do all the time) it will require you to download "Java" (go to their website for safety) It's only a tiny program almost all computers end up needing/using as a standard. When saving the how to vids to your PC using keepvid, after pasting the video link, I would select the blue colored one "mp4 (max 480p) as most PC's can playback vid's with the mp4 format taking little space. I'd make a folder in your "documents" named "Tutorial Videos" (or whatever you like) for storing teaching vids to use while you're using Sony Vegas doing projects. Plus, if your internet is either slow or down, you won't have to rely on that or streaming or searching to find that fav video, even sometimes seeing it's been removed.

Hope this helps!