OT: Is title-safe still important?

OT: Is title-safe still important?
by Jeff Schroeder on Aug 7, 2012 at 1:03:52 pm

With the decline of cathode ray tube TV sets, is title and action safe still important?

Jeff

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Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by John Rofrano on Aug 7, 2012 at 1:35:44 pm

[Jeff Schroeder] "With the decline of cathode ray tube TV sets, is title and action safe still important?"

Yes, some HD TV's cut off part of the image as well so it's best to play it safe and still respect these safe areas.

~jr

Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by Steve Rhoden on Aug 7, 2012 at 2:07:18 pm

Yes Jeff, still very important.

Steve Rhoden
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Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by Jeff Schroeder on Aug 7, 2012 at 3:32:43 pm

Thanks guys,

So little of my content is broadcast over-the-air, as opposed to distribution in a strictly digital manner, I was wondering where the cropping/loss would come from.

Jeff

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33, EVGA SR-2 Mobo, 48GB DDR3, GTX 580 3072MB, 16TB Attached Storage, Win7, Vegas 11 x64

Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by John Rofrano on Aug 7, 2012 at 3:58:52 pm

[Jeff Schroeder] "I was wondering where the cropping/loss would come from."

The cropping comes from the HD TV itself. I can make a DVD and play it back on the Sony in my family room, and it will crop different than the Samsung in the bedroom. I assume it's the TV although I guess it could be the DVD player? Not sure, but I know safe areas still matter even without broadcasting.

~jr

Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by Jeff Schroeder on Aug 7, 2012 at 4:28:59 pm

Wow, that is interesting. Thanks for your input.

Jeff

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33, EVGA SR-2 Mobo, 48GB DDR3, GTX 580 3072MB, 16TB Attached Storage, Win7, Vegas 11 x64

Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by John Rofrano on Aug 7, 2012 at 4:37:45 pm

You should be able to test this for yourself if you have two HD TV's from two different manufacturers. Now my Sony uses DLP technology and the Samsung is LCD so maybe it needs to be different technologies? Whatever it is, they crop differently.

~jr

Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by Brett Underberg-Davis on Aug 11, 2012 at 10:45:57 pm

With newer TVs there are so many varied options to stretch or fill the screen it's almost impossible to predict what any given TV and its user will be seeing. At least that's my impression when I see how others have their sets and players set up. It can be fairly aggravating.

Even with production direct to DVD, I find that I try to play the final master on a few different sets (and change the settings even) just to get an idea of the range of variations the final customers might wind up seeing.

Re: OT: Is title-safe still important?
by John Rofrano on Aug 12, 2012 at 12:47:21 pm

[Brett Underberg-Davis] "With newer TVs there are so many varied options to stretch or fill the screen it's almost impossible to predict what any given TV and its user will be seeing."

I share your frustration and I wasn't even considering how different sets are set up with stretching the image. Right now, the TV is the dumbest device you own. It has no clue about the content it's displaying and quite often displays it incorrectly. The broadcast industry should be embarrassed by the wide screen TV fiasco. It simply doesn't work and no one seems to care.

~jr