new Pro 11 update

Notable fixes/changes in version 11.0 (Build 682/683)

Fixed a crash that could occur on some computers during playback if the Split Screen View was used in the Clipboard mode.
Fixed a crash that could occur when right-clicking the Pan/Crop ruler.
Fixed a crash that could occur opening certain FLAC files.
Fixed a crash or hang that could occur when switching between Video FX and Compositors windows with certain OFX plug-ins.
Fixed a hang that could occur with Spiral, Split, Squeeze, and Zoom transitions on certain NVIDIA GPUs.
Fixed the ability render more than 4 channels of audio to Sony MXF format.
Fixed an issue that could cause garbled audio in the rendered file if the last playback direction was reverse.
Re-enabled GPU acceleration of Cookie Cutter (Video FX) and Page Loop (Transition) on AMD GPUs when running Catalyst 12.2 or newer.
Fixed an error message that would appear when writing to theSony XDCAM Professional Media Station (XDS) internal drive from Vegas.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/updates/vegaspro

I'm putting it on my test machine.

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

Was that with this *new* update??

Windows 7 Pro64, 16GB RAM, SSD boot drive, GTX 570 Graphics, Vegas Pro 11 and VP10 just in case

I've been (batch) rendering for 16 hours straight. Color correction, noise reduction, levels, and sharpen. No problems so far across multiple files. (But then, I didn't have problems before.)

Jeff

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

No, I haven't downloaded the update yet. I'll wait until I've completed my projects for the week before even trying it. Vegas just started giving me bugs and crashes (including changing the files for video events-AGAIN-when I reopened a project) right before Sony prompted me to download the update.

http://www.scenethroughglass.com

Trying it out soon.... I remember the days when i didnt
need to hesitate when their was a Vegas update.... I wish
those days of supreme confidence for Vegas could return.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

While it saddened me to read this, it did confirm my intuitions and why I haven't managed to bother installing an update since Build 511. Here's hoping feedback on this one restores some sort of confidence, or that things actually improve soon.

In the meantime I think I may just go back to relying on the last build of Vegas 10 until it seems like things have been sorted out. Thanks to everyone for the feedback, at least I know I'm not alone in this.

Just checked two my bugs:

- Crash during stabilization some subclips still not fixed (very annoying for me) :(
- Bug when encoding to Mainconcept AVC + with GPU acceleration enabled lasts forever if Sony ProType Titler generated media was used is fixed in this build (not mentioned in release notes).

1. Update Vegas 11 Pro to Build 683 (64 bit)
2. Open veg project (TWO clips - total 4 mins!)
3. Insert media generator/solid colour (white)event under video track
4. Select 'eyedropper' to select a colour
5. Close media generator
6. CRASH!!!!!
7. Repeat many times.
8. SAME RESULT

Aaaaaaargh!!

Plamen,What sometimes seem to work in your situation, is to
uninstall Vegas completely and delete all its corresponding
folders left back... Restart, then install the latest build,
hopefully that should fix your problem.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

....SIGH....

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

I just downloaded the update and tried the same steps you listed. I could not get it to crash. I tried the eyedropper on the video preview window and also within the Media Generator window. I would suspect a video driver problem if it is related to the eyedropper. I'm running 301.24 of the NVidia drivers for the GTX 570. I'm just providing this information so it may help troubleshoot the problem if we know what works.

NewBlue Titler still not fixed.

Just curious. Have there been any significant updates on the 3rd party Newblue Titler? Given I wasn't hugely impressed with the Newblue effects package that came with Vegas 10 (or was it 9?) it's not something I've invested a lot of time in following, at least while on my current year of severely limited time and budget.

I seem to be a pariah around here since I can't get on the "It's Buggy" wagon train, I only have good to report about the latest release. No crashes, NBT works, Genarts Sapphire Edge works, BCC8 works.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

I do not base Sony Vegas's High points or shortcomings entirely
on my personal experience using it. Most of the complaints i get
and hear about, i have never experienced them, but that doesnt
mean they are not there....That doesnt mean if i dont see a bug,
there is no bug....That doesnt mean most users who are having
issues are doing something wrong.
If numerous users complain about a particular problem, there is a
problem, even if i dont experience it, i approach it as such.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

Yes Jeff, Installing much OFX and GPU dependent plugins,
gradually opens up cans of worms for Vegas.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

Stephen,

My main computer is also a BYO, but then so is my test one. I have Vegas 11 64 bit, no 32 bit, Newblue audio essentials and equalizers, video essentials 1-4, titler, iZotope RX, Vegasaur, and some others I can't remember. I DON'T browse with it. I also have Photoshop and AE. I carefully select updates for windows. No Office, Outlook, no Norton or Nero either. This computer has a single purpose. I always put the same brand video card as the mother board, MB related drivers are up to date, video card is (usually) updated about 2 weeks after Nvidia thinks I need one. I don't install the Nvidia 3d drivers. And most of all - NO GAMES. I don't think that's too much to ask if your business depends on it. People here will spend 500 bucks on a video card, why not go to Walmart and get an Emachine for $300 that they can put all their shareware and internet junk on?

Like I have said, I am really glad not to be crashing all the time. But I am sure, that for some people it is in part about the choices they make in how they use their editing computer. Engineers who put $8000 worth of CAD software on a box probably don't install first person shooter games alongside it.

I'm not discounting the problems Sony has been through in the moves to 64 bit and to OFX. But I am saying that people need to be practical in how they use their tools.

Just my rant,

Jeff

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

More than a few long-time Vegas supporters that I personally know have or are going to be jumping ship :(

Sad but true Steve. For whatever reason, Sony has really dropped the ball on this release and I don't know if they will ever be able to catch up.

...aaaaaand NewBlue Titler is constantly crashing with the Vegas update.

http://www.scenethroughglass.com

I agree that the system which is used for video editing should be tidy (especially from different "codec packs") and this will eliminate many problems.

However, quite often the programs are buggy and tidy system with the latest drivers will not help.

I can send you an example project that crashes every time when I am trying to stabilize subclip.
Yes, I prepared this example, but Sony doesn't interested in it. The send me messages that new build is out and probably the problem was fixed, but they don't bothe to download my example and check for the bug.

Usually every 10th (or so) stabilization is crashed in my case. Very annoying. And quite unexpected for program that cost five hundreds bucks.

I tried to reinstall OS but this doesn't help. Also, other people reproduced this crash on absolutely different systems.

P.S. I know, that Sony stabilization plugin is not the best, but I can't afford to spend for my hobby another $200 for Mircali stabilizer.

I already have and use not expensive tripod when possible (good tripod wont be cheaper anyway). Also, I have and use Hague MMC camera stabilizer (also when possible).
However, it is impossible to use all this stuff while filming kids at home, on the beach etc :)

I'll give it a shot here if you want.

Here you are (~75MB, the smallest piece that crashed during my workflow):
http://depositfiles.com/files/ja2h8hl00
(I use file-sharing services rarely so I don't know what is the best one)

Unpack it, open project and try to stabilize the single subclip that is already created (RMB | Media FX | Sony Stabilize | Apply).

The workaround: delete the subclip, cut one frame from the beginning or from the end, create subclip, stabilize.

P.S. I prefer that Sony take a look at this problem :)

[Mikhail Petrushin] "I use file-sharing services rarely so I don't know what is the best one"

They are all spam. depositfiles.com is one of the worst. You have to wait a minute before you can download, in the meanwhile you have to be spammed to buy their "premium" service. If you use their "free" service they deliberately slow the file transfer speed.

If I want to send a large file, I use Dropbox.

Dropbox is a cloud-based file sharing service that syncs file across all your computers. It works with files (video, graphics, text, anything) of any size, and it syncs automatically whenever a new file appears or a change is detected. Best of all, it’s free for a 2GB account. (And no spam ads). Use this link (http://db.tt/KCWoOts) to get your free Dropbox and we both get an additional 500 MB.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

I never found a need for subclips, Everything here is edited on the timeline

I need only part on the media to be stabilized.
The reasons are simple:
1. It is faster to stabilize a little peace that is required than whole media
2. If I stabilize the whole media that required piece will be stabilized in a different way because stabilization process look for whole stabilized media.

Stabilization can be applied only for media, so the only way -- create subclip and stabilize it.
I don't use subclips for any other tasks.

Your veg file crashes at the end of the stabilization.

I know, I saw it many times :)

I used your original m2ts file and applied the Sony Stabilizer to it - no problems.

I know. I stabilized many medias and many subclips. I've never had crashes during stabilizing whole media.

I made a subclip from it, applied the Sony Stabilizer, no problems.

I know. The stabilization crashes for some subclips only. Usually I have one crash for approx. every 10th stabilizations. Probably it depends on where the edges of the subclips are. I wrote that if I had a crash I can "take" original media (from context menu) cut just one frame from the beginning/the end, create the new subclip and in most cases the new subclip will be stabilized without problem.

Yes, I've found this workaround for myself but I do not like these annoying crashes as I have to press Ctrl+S all the time (I do it before subclip creation), I lose history, current position etc.

I just wanted to show you that Vegas 11 crashes in some cases on rock-solid stable PCs as well :)
If you'd like to re-produce the crash from the scratch you can do following steps:
1. Open my project and delete all from timeline
2. Put my media (m2ts) on timeline
3. Cursor Position (Ctrl+G) 0.47 ENTER (frame 47)
4. Split (S)
5. Cursor Position (Ctrl+G) 2.2 ENTER (frame 102)
6. Split (S)
7. Delete the first and the last parts (this does not necessary)
8. RMB over the only part | Create subclip
9. RMB over the subclip | Media FX | Sony Stabilize | OK | Apply
=> Crash

This is not the media problems. It crashes if I take another region (1.47 -- 3.2 for example) or another media (from the same Panasonic TM700 camcorder).

P.S. I've made a smaller example-project and uploaded it to Sony.

I can't seem to wrap my armns around this...like many this last upgrade is really bad on my machine. I have an AMD RADEON HD 6670.
seems to me the guys using Nvidea cards have more stability...no?

here's somethinbg weird...I've been trying to upgrade my catalyst software to 12.4...but when I download and install, reboot and go back to contol center it is still showing 12.3. tried this many times ?????

any ideas about that?

running win 7 premium 64bit 8gigs of ram i7-2600

thanks
Jon Muro