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George McCreadieUnable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 18, 2011 at 8:39:10 pm

Hi everyone,

Due to my last complications with movie studio 9 here, i have decided to upgrade to vegas 10. (not movie studio)

Anyway now i have problems regarding importing certain files, you know where im going with this. . . . Cannot import avi, cannot import .ts

GOD frustrating!!

I could import both of these with movie studio and still have it intalled, why cant vegas 10 do it. I found people online with the same problem so i intalled k lite codec pack, god knows why because it works with movie studio. Still no avail hoping you could help.

Sorry this was typed quickly and may have mistakes :)

george


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 18, 2011 at 9:22:34 pm

Are you using the 64-bit version of Vegas Pro 10? If so, you will also need to the 64-bit version of any codecs.

Also it is never advisable to install any codec packs on a video editing workstation. This is guaranteed way to mess things up.

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 18, 2011 at 9:25:26 pm

John you seemed to have saved the day again. Seems so stupid ;)

Anyway im going to try that. Thank You!


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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 11:02:11 am

Amazing! I installed a few codecs but do you have any idea what codec i need to import .ts streams? I know its not the best format but my pvr records in ts files. The files are so big 1gb+ i dont want to waste time converting. My movie studio worked with them before but i cant find a 64 bit codec?

Thanks John!!


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 2:01:14 pm

[George McCreadie] "I installed a few codecs but do you have any idea what codec i need to import .ts streams?"
No. You need to determine what codec the file uses. Look at the documentation on your PVR.

Vegas Pro 10 64-bit should have no problem opening MPEG2 transport streams. You're problem could be that you installed the K-Lite codec pack and it has replaced the high-quality codecs that you paid Sony good money for, with low quality free codecs. Unfortunately, the damage is done. These codec packs usually do not uninstall cleanly and leave your PC in a horrible state that is difficult to recover from.

If Vegas Pro 32-bit will open them then use that. If not, your problem could be related to the codec pack. First you need to determine what codec the .TS file uses.

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 5:47:23 pm

Hi John

Gspot said its M-PEG 2 Transport Streams

Mime Type Video/mp2t

"Movie Studio 9" could do it, The reason i upgraded to "Pro 10" was because i could not change the mp4 values.

I'm really stuck

So far its money* well spent

*=Not

Thanks john :P)


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 5:57:59 pm

[George McCreadie] "So far its money* well spent

*=Not"
Perhaps you didn't understand my last post so let me say it a different way: You caused this problem.

Vegas Pro 10 has no problem with MPEG2 Transport Streams. I edit them all the time. It plays them perfectly right out-of-the-box. There is nothing special you need to do to make it work. You have caused the problem by installing the K-Like codec pak. This is not a Vegas problem. This is caused by your computer being messed up by installing a codec pak.

You can try uninstalling K-Lite and re-installing Vegas Pro and see if you can re-establish the Vegas codecs. Otherwise, the only other solution I know of is to rebuild the PC from scratch (i.e. format the hard drive and re-install Windows and never, ever , NEVER, install a codecpak again)

Just to give you an analogy: installing a codec-pak is like taking every pill in your medicine cabinet hoping that one of them will make you better... one of them might... but the others might kill you. It is never a good idea to install a codec-pak on a video editing workstation. You should always find the one codec that you need and install only that codec from a reputable source.

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 6:01:10 pm

Thank you for taking the time to reply.
I know i caused this problem by doing that, the thing that i cannot understand is that vegas movie studio 9 can still import and render the mpeg2 transport streams?!? Its doing in my nut.

Sorry & Thanks!


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 8:10:00 pm

[George McCreadie] "I know i caused this problem by doing that, the thing that i cannot understand is that vegas movie studio 9 can still import and render the mpeg2 transport streams?!? Its doing in my nut."
Because Movie Studio is 32-bit and uses 32-bit codecs and Vegas Pro 10 64-bit requires 64-bit codecs. This is why I asked, can Vegas Pro 10 32-bit read the file. It may only be the 64-bit MPEG2 decoder that is messed up.

Again, try re-installing Vegas Pro 10 64-bit and see if that helps. Also try Vegas Pro 32-bit. You can have both installed at the same time so you loose nothing by trying.

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 8:28:32 pm

Quite strange, i just installed the 32bit version of Pro10 and still no avail. . .

Just checked movie studio and still works, i suppose im going to have to have a look into converting. Dont suppose you know of any quick but effective converters? Dont worry about loosing quality because it being uploaded to youtube, but needs to be run through vegas first to compress and split.

Thanks Again John


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 19, 2011 at 11:45:52 pm

You know I'm thinkin'... just because the file is .TS it could still have AVC/H.264 inside. (i.e., it doesn't necessarily have MPEG2 in it). My Hauppauge HD-PVR records .TS files with AVC/H.264 in it. Then I use tsMuxerGUI to remux them into .M2TS files. That might work for you.

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 20, 2011 at 7:20:32 pm

Perfect! Nice quick convert into somthing vegas likes ;)

One last question before i will stop bothering you :)

Youtube Settings (Yes i just heard you say urghh)

Baseing the render on Apple iPod 640 x 480 what settings do i need to change to get 100mb per 10 min and the youtube widescreen size?

Cheeers Boss!!!!!!

George


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 20, 2011 at 8:26:38 pm

[George McCreadie] "Baseing the render on Apple iPod 640 x 480 what settings do i need to change to get 100mb per 10 min and the youtube widescreen size?"
If you want widescreen 16:9 then the dimensions should be set to 640x360. As I said before, use Two Pass and lower the average bit rate to between 1,200,000 and 1,300,000 bps and you should hit your 100mb per 10 minutes.

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 21, 2011 at 11:07:02 am

Thats Great!

It worked seamlessly.
Do you know what resoloution i need to get youtube HD?
-and by doing that will it take longer to render and have a larger file size?

Thanks John you have been a really big help!

Is there like a REP button on these forums?


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 21, 2011 at 12:30:49 pm

[George McCreadie] "Do you know what resoloution i need to get youtube HD?"
YouTube HD can be either 1280x720 or 1920x1080. personally, I feel that 1920x1080 is ridiculous for internet video so I upload all of my HD videos at 1280x720.
[George McCreadie] "-and by doing that will it take longer to render and have a larger file size?"
No, the file size is determined by the bit rate. Of course, you should increase the bit rate if you increase your resolution to make sure that you have enough bits to accurately represent the frame.
[George McCreadie] "Is there like a REP button on these forums?"
No, but there is a KUDO's button at the bottom of a post but I'm not sure what it actually does. lol. ;-)

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 24, 2011 at 11:00:15 am

Thanks for the reply john.

What sort of bit rate would i be looking at or do i need to test it myself.

Thanks


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John RofranoRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 24, 2011 at 1:27:35 pm

[George McCreadie] "What sort of bit rate would i be looking at or do i need to test it myself."
That's the problem. If you want to maintain the same file size you can't increase the bit-rate. I guess what I'm saying is, forget about HD if you don't want to increase the file size. I would use at least 2,500,000 - 3,000,000 for 720p HD but that will make your file almost twice as big. (don't forget HD is 5x the information of SD)

~jr

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George McCreadieRe: Unable to import avi into Vegas 10?! plz!
by on Apr 24, 2011 at 3:15:35 pm

Thank You John


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