| .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames
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I'm not a Vegas user but I was given a Vegas project (pro 8.0)to color correct. I pretty quickly decided that I REALLY didn't want to do the correction in Vegas. The project is a play, shot on three cameras that need to be matched. It was edited using the switcher in Vegas, so I went through and actually cut where vegas had just lowered the opacity, and then saved the project as an Avid Legacy .aaf and imported it into AE cs4. In AE each cut shows as a seperate later, but AE seems to have taken and inserted single frames of the beginning of the original hour long clips. The wacky frames are easily spotted because they are off-set from rest, but I can't just go through and delete them, because I have to extend the previous cut by a frame to fill in the spot. SUPER time consuming. Is there a better way I should have done this? I'm currently rendering each track out of Vegas, which is going to make some very sizable files (total of 6 hours uncompressed footage).
Screen shot of my track. Not sure if its actually useful or not. 
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by John Rofrano on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:34:11 pm |
One thing you might want to do is match the source of the three cameras. If they shot continuously, you should have only 3 files or even if they changed tapes you'd have 6 files. You could correct these in AE so that they match and render them back out in their entirety to the same set of files. Then in Vegas you could replace the original source with the color matched versions.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com http://www.vasst.com
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by Christina Pearson on Dec 22, 2010 at 11:40:48 pm |
That was my original plan. And please, if anyone has a suggestion I would love to hear it. I was able to get the files down to a reasonable size using lagarith, but the guy who edited said he couldn't get vegas to open the files. Everything else I tried gave me either unmanagable file sizes, or I wasn't sure that we weren't going to get compression issues. Final output is a DVD for what its worth.
I'm not at my editing machine now, but I may give importing the lagarith files a try on my machine, since I know its installed properly, although I noticed that Vegas doesn't want to let me render out using the codec so perhaps its not supported?
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by John Rofrano on Dec 23, 2010 at 2:02:21 am |
Lagarith works fine on Vegas Pro. You both need to have the codec installed and you will need to make your own AVI templates to render with it but it does work. Also make sure that you install the 64-bit version if you are using the 64-bit version of Vegas Pro.
What is the format of the original files? Why not just render back to the original format? You could also use a digital intermediary like Cineform which I work with in Vegas Pro and After Effects all the time.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com http://www.vasst.com
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by Christina Pearson on Dec 23, 2010 at 2:43:43 am |
The originals are AVCHD .m2t files. I did try rendering them back to .m2t's at the highest quality I could muster and the quality was total crap. I've never used Cineform but I'll definitly be checkign it out, thanks. I'm an Adobe user BECAUSE I do alot of work in AE so this whole workflow thing has had me wasting a TON of time. I should be getting a fair ammount of work from this guy so I NEED to hammer out a better work flow, or give in and learn Vegas, but I really wasn't impressed with the color correction system, and I really do prefer the Premiere multi cam switcher to what I've experienced with the Vegas one.
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by Christina Pearson on Dec 30, 2010 at 5:58:35 am |
John, Thank you so much, cineform has MOSTLY been very helpful. If you wouldn't mind answering one SUPER basic question for me confirming my work flow I would really appreciate it. As I'm reading everything from Cineform they talk about just editing your masters, so I want to make sure I'm doing this the best way possible. I've converted all my .m2t files to cineform .avi files using HDLink. I then import them to after effects cs5, do my color correction, and then render them back out as cineform .avi's, which I us to replace the original uncorrected files that were used in the Vegas 8 edit. Right?
Side note:I've had a TON of HDLink crashes trying to convert all this footage (about 6 hours worth) and I think I've finally found that my CPU was getting too hot. I turned all my fans up on my Antec case and so far no crashes, and the core temps are staying below 80c.
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by John Rofrano on Dec 30, 2010 at 2:23:52 pm |
[Christina Pearson] "I've converted all my .m2t files to cineform .avi files using HDLink. I then import them to after effects cs5, do my color correction, and then render them back out as cineform .avi's, which I us to replace the original uncorrected files that were used in the Vegas 8 edit. Right? " Yes, that's the correct workflow. You do all of your work with the CineForm files including rendering your final output. They take the place of your original source throughout editing and delivery.
[Christina Pearson] "Side note:I've had a TON of HDLink crashes trying to convert all this footage (about 6 hours worth) and I think I've finally found that my CPU was getting too hot. I turned all my fans up on my Antec case and so far no crashes, and the core temps are staying below 80c." Rendering video is extremely CPU intensive. You need good heat sinks with a well ventilated case to endure hours of rendering.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com http://www.vasst.com
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by Christina Pearson on Dec 30, 2010 at 3:16:03 pm |
Thanks John! I built this computer a few months ago, and I haven't had a problem with long AE or Premiere renders, but turning up the variable fans on the case seems to have solved my crash issue (heat sink is pretty hefty), and Cineform seems to have solved our workflow issue. Woo! Time to be productive again.
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• | | | |  | Re: .aaf Vegas to AE inserted frames by Christina Pearson on Dec 23, 2010 at 2:45:21 am |
Oh, and I did suspect some BS on his end about not being able to open the lagarith files, so I'm glad to hear it does work with Vegas since its a codec I use frequently.
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