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Paige KarmenCodecs
by on Dec 18, 2010 at 6:01:58 am

Okay, so... the other day I had downloaded K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit... It worked, but then I had troubles with downloading the AVI files i wanted, they just stopped working, At first i thought that my computer was being stupid, but then i recalled a virus i got that was semi-similar. So I unistalled the codec, since that was the most recent reason i could find that it woudl be doing that... It worked, i mean after that i was able to download the AVI files fine. However, I've reinstalled it, and now the AVI files decided to stop working on me in windows. I know the codec need to make the AVI files work, is H.264... but everytime i tried getting those to install as soon as i hit the Run button a rectangular box appeared in the top left of the screen and dissappeared before i could see what it was. So I thought maybe it was another virus, but when I scanned the computer it found a virus to a temporary internet file that i deleted, and i'd had the file for longer then a year. It still didn't work. So maybe it's not a virus? I also recently discovered it works in Soy Vegas... without audio, which is fine with me... only the quality of the video isn't the same as on WMM... Any solutions to that, i had the same problem with the codec on SV before i unistalled the codec, and it worked perfectly fine on WMM. I would love for somebody to help me, my main goal is for it to work in HQ, and not be in pixelate. Any suggestions?


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 18, 2010 at 12:39:44 pm

Never, ever, NEVER install the K-Lite (or any other) codec pak. It is a sure way to mess up your computer. Just install the few codecs that you need fro the AVI files you are using. Use GSpot to determine which codecs you need and then get them from a reputable source (like the manufacturer).

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Steve RhodenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 18, 2010 at 1:46:16 pm

This K-Lite Codec Pak should never be installed on any computer......(As John recommend), Get your codecs from a reputable source.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 22, 2010 at 3:31:35 am

Will my computer be okay if i uninstall it completely. Where would i find the codecs alone, I need H.264 and DIVX... Is there a site where you can find different codecs for free... Could that also be a reason, why my internet's acting funky. I mean YouTube and Yahoo, two of my most visited sites started not loading yesterday. My internets had problems like this before. I mean It's always picked and choosed sites for no reason. I always thought of that as a different story.

I need a way to get the codecs from the internet... for free... and for 64-bit.


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Dave HaynieRe: Codecs
by on Dec 22, 2010 at 7:28:45 am

Your computer should be just what it was after the removal.

With that said, if you need specific CODECs, you should install just those.

If you have any Blu-Ray player software, many camcorder support packages, Adobe Flash, even some Web browsers, you may already have an AVC CODEC installed. The question to ask... your AVC video originates from somewhere. Unless you're just grabbing pirated video off the web, there's some help from the provider of that video. For example, YouTube has a help page here: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=56115

Apple's Quicktime can play most AVC formats.. you can get the free download here (it's a little annoying, and huge, but it's also pretty stand-alone, it doesn't mess with other functions in the system): http://www.apple.com/quicktime

If you're just looking for playback, you can try a couple players. The best quality, and some of the lowest CPU overhead I've seen on a PC/Windows system is from Splash Lite: http://mirillis.com/en/products/splash.html

Another option is the VLC Media Player. This actually contains some of the same open source software that went into K-Lite, but it's all self-contained... these don't get installed at the system level, so they don't muck up other programs with questionable CODECs. That's not to knock all open source CODECs; I have used some of these same bits of code in video servers I've integrated for industrial use. But there is some junk out there, too. VLC isn't terribly efficient at playback, the price is right: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

DivX, Inc. is responsible for the various DivX formats. They have free CODECs for playback, which you can find here: http://www.divx.com/en/software/divx-plus/codec-pack

None of these necessarily let you create videos, but they will help you play things back.

-Dave


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 22, 2010 at 8:27:06 pm

Thanks, I'm looking for something i can edit, and playback of course. You have helped a lot, I'm going to check to see what works.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 22, 2010 at 11:29:10 pm

I've downloaded the DivX one before. I also uninstalled it at the same time i uninstalled the K-Lite Codec Pack the first time. Is it possible that that's the reason my files were working. The reason i uninstalled them both was because i had installed them both around the same time, and shortly after i was having problems. So i uninstalled them to make sure that the problem was fixed. It was.
Out of the list the only one i haven't tried is the Splash Lite one, the rest havan't worked. The codecs i need were still read as not installed.


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 23, 2010 at 1:49:09 am

[Paige Karmen] "The codecs i need were still read as not installed."
Which codec is that? I'm guessing that you have AVI files with h.264 in them? If so, try the x264vfw codec. If they have DivX in them, then you must install the DivX codec.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 23, 2010 at 4:27:10 am

Now, I installed DivX, it's a codec pack, but it's from the link that Dave Haynie gave me. Since, I've downloaded that, it works on Sony Vegas, I'd love to use Sony Vegas, but everytime I open the file, it's in pixelate... Is there any possible way to fix that??? I want it in High Quality, and not in pixelate.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 23, 2010 at 6:55:38 am

It does that with every file i open.


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 23, 2010 at 5:28:55 pm

[Paige Karmen] " I'd love to use Sony Vegas, but everytime I open the file, it's in pixelate... Is there any possible way to fix that???"
When you drop the files into GSpot does it say that they are DivX files?

What do you have your video preview quality set to?

What are your project dimensions?

What are the files dimensions?

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 24, 2010 at 1:25:13 am

The file is WMV, the one that i'm checking. None of my AVI files are working on SV... But i can always fix that later, im pretty sure it's because of the codec not working.

Okay, when i change the preview quatilty to full, it stays that way when it's paused and i click full screen. However when i press play and switch it to full screen it automatically goes to half.

After changing the project properties, width to 800 and height to 450, like the filess width and height. It still isn't working. It didn't change anything. Plus before i changed it it did the same thing with the play/pause and preview quality.


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Mike KujbidaRe: Codecs
by on Dec 24, 2010 at 1:50:31 am

[Paige Karmen] "Okay, when i change the preview quatilty to full, it stays that way when it's paused and i click full screen. However when i press play and switch it to full screen it automatically goes to half."

This is perfectly normal behaviour from a "feature" that was added in Pro 9.

Vegas can now automatically adjust the video preview size and quality to optimize frame rate during preview.
Right-click the Video Preview window and select Adjust Size and Quality for Optimal Playback if you want to emphasize frame rate during preview. When the command is not selected, video quality is emphasized, and the frame rate will be reduced if necessary.


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 24, 2010 at 1:34:10 pm

Yea, as Mike said, make sure Adjust Size and Quality for Optimal Playback is not checked and your preview will stay at the quality you set it. Now you should have nice high quality "choppy" playback because your PC probably can't keep up with playing this quality in real-time.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 26, 2010 at 12:12:24 am

Yay! Problem solved... moving on.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 26, 2010 at 1:27:03 am

Are there any places like Dave Haynie suggested that i can get it so the AVI H.264 Codec works so that i can edit the video also?


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 26, 2010 at 1:47:16 pm

[Paige Karmen] "Are there any places like Dave Haynie suggested that i can get it so the AVI H.264 Codec works so that i can edit the video also?"
Did you try the x264vfw codec that I suggested several posts back?

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 27, 2010 at 11:12:25 pm

Do you have a link...? I mean i don't want to be demanding or anything, but when i looked it up on google, well let's just say if you look anything up on google theres going to be more then one site, and i don't know which ones are trustworthy so...


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 28, 2010 at 12:15:41 am

[Paige Karmen] "Do you have a link...? I mean i don't want to be demanding or anything, but when i looked it up on google, well let's just say if you look anything up on google theres going to be more then one site, and i don't know which ones are trustworthy so..."
It's the first site on Google (sourceforge.net) and if you don't know what web sites to trust, get the WOT plug-in for your browser.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 28, 2010 at 6:46:56 am

I believe i downloaded it once before, but it didn't work, and it's not working now either.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 30, 2010 at 8:11:30 am

Does anybody not have a solution? Or a suggestion?


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 30, 2010 at 8:20:33 am

It's working on Windows Media Player perfectly fine with just the DivX Codec Pack. But won't work on SV or WMM!


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Dec 30, 2010 at 9:20:57 am

I lied.. my AVI files are working with the x264vfw installed!


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Dec 30, 2010 at 2:19:49 pm

[Paige Karmen] "my AVI files are working with the x264vfw installed!"
Yea, I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't be working because that works for me. Glad you figured it out.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 1, 2011 at 2:29:25 am

Well, technically it works on WMP, but it's still not working on WMM or Sony Vegas, which i want it to work on SV, but if it works on Windows Movie Maker i can save it so that it will work on Sony Vegas. See that's where the problem exists, it was like that from the beginning.


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 1, 2011 at 3:20:57 am

Have you tried Vegas Pro 32-bit? It may just be a 64-bit codec problem.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 2, 2011 at 3:06:45 am

Then why wouldn't it work on Windows Movie Maker? Because i already uninstalled Sony Vegas once, and it took a while to get it installed again!


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 2, 2011 at 1:35:51 pm

I don't know anything about Windows Movie Maker (sorry). You don't have to uninstall Vegas Pro 64-bit to install the 32-bit version. Both versions will remain installed at the same time (and in fact, you should have both versions installed because they are lots of plug-ins and codecs that don't have 64-bit support).

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 3, 2011 at 3:30:28 am

Okay, but when you open the 32-bit version will it be opened seperately from the 64-bit version. Or will they merge or something when you open it?


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 3, 2011 at 3:38:57 am

They are the same program running in either 32-bit or 64-bit mode. Think of them as one.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 7:47:34 am

So once i install it, does that mean that mean i have to do the keyen thing again? Or is it completely universal and i just go to open sony vegas? How do i know whether or not i'm using the 64-bit mode or the 32-bit mode? Because i already downloaded, ran as administaror, and clicked next to everything and then after while i think it said finish that i clicked on, is there anything mroe that i have to do?


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 1:35:40 pm

[Paige Karmen] "So once i install it, does that mean that mean i have to do the keyen thing again? "
What "keyen" thing?

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Mike KujbidaRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 1:41:24 pm

Could keyen mean keygen?
If yes, that brings a whole new approach to this thread and it's not a good one.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 11:18:26 pm

What do you mean its not a good one?


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Mike KujbidaRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 11:19:45 pm

[Paige Karmen] "What do you mean its not a good one?"

That depends.
Did you mean keygen?


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 11:45:56 pm

If i did though, why would it be a bad one? I mean is there any way if i meant that, that i could fix my problem with the AVI files?


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Mike KujbidaRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 11:51:37 pm

A keygen means that you're using a bootleg copy of Vegas.
Besides that fact that a lot of these versions are known to have bugs, you have a copy that you didn't pay for.
That means that you won't get much help from those of us that have paid for all the software that they own and use.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 12:04:02 am

Yeah, i installed SV and then i installed the keygen... but isn't the codec's the same way when you download them from the web?! Then can you direct me to a source that can help me? Because all i really need it the AVI files to work on WMM. But they won't. And it's goes into WMM the same way it does for SV. The only difference i see is that SV has more effects, and better effects. If you can't help with that, that can you help me find a converter that keeps it's HQ and can handle larger files? I'm willing to accept any suggestion here.


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 1:01:32 am

[Paige Karmen] "Then can you direct me to a source that can help me? "
Ask the pirates that wrote the keygen.

You won't get any help here using stolen software. You are stealing from good people who work hard to create and maintain that software. You have no right to use it without paying for it. Sorry.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 4:36:04 am

I understand completely what you're saying, do you know anybody that knows how to use Windows Movie Maker though? I just won't use Sony Vegas, i don't really need the high tech quality to edit what i want anyways! I don't need Sony Vegas to complete the goal i wanted. I'm much more confortable with WMM to start with, and that isn't stolen software.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 6, 2011 at 4:40:26 am

Say i did want to use Sony Vegas, not stolen, but just the trial version alone... where could i download the trial version from online?


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 5, 2011 at 11:47:22 pm

Well even setting Sony Vegas aside, if you know how to work Windows Movie Maker, then how can i make AVI files work on that?


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 8, 2011 at 4:15:04 am

I think what i forgot to add was that, i deleted Sony Vegas until i can find a way to get it without it being stolen, i don't want to be theif. And if that means going out and buying it when i get the money, so be it.

If you are still willing to respond, do you know any sites that can work Sony Vegas. I think some of my last comments sounded like i was trying to lie on something, but i wasn't trying to lie, i hate lying. If you asked me if i downloaded it stolen, i'd answer yes, if you asked me if i downloaded it without realizing it was stolen, i'd say i'm not the bright persont hat reads into everything, so no. If you asked if i still had SV installed, i'd say no. If you asked me if i was going to be careful with anything i download a lot better next time, i'd say yes.


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 8, 2011 at 12:23:45 pm

I appreciate your honesty. You don't have to buy Vegas Pro, the Movie Studio version is extremely full featured and Vegas Movie Studio HD 9 is only $44.95 USD and Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 10 is $94.95 USD. If you download the trial of either you can use it for 30-days while your saving up the money. If you use one after the other, that's 60-days of free editing.

I've never used Windows Movie Maker so I really can't help you unless you are using Vegas. It's the only NLE that I use.

You last update was that your files were working with the x264vfw codec installed. I'm not clear on what problem you're having now.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 9, 2011 at 2:20:25 am

Is there a link where i can go to get the trial version? As far as i know, i don't have a problem with anything right now, I'll let you know if i do.


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 9, 2011 at 6:10:25 am

Anything that doesn't involve the trial version... I forgot to add that. No problems except getting Sony Vegas the right way!


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 9, 2011 at 2:09:06 pm

[Paige Karmen] "Is there a link where i can go to get the trial version?"
Most of us would go to the manufacturer's web site to download trial versions so that would be the Sony web site. You can downloads trials of all the versions from Vegas Product Family page.

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 10, 2011 at 3:38:25 am

Which one is Vegas Pro 9 64-bit?


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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 10, 2011 at 6:31:52 am

Okay, nvm the last message. I'm having problem's registering.

You see, when i get to the page that has the steps, double click this file, it tells me to enter any missing information on the sony registration site, then submit.
Then it sends you an email with the authentication code...

However after double clicking, it redirects the page to a page that says "HTTP 403 Forbidden"

...


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 11, 2011 at 2:29:59 am

[Paige Karmen] "You see, when i get to the page that has the steps, double click this file, it tells me to enter any missing information on the sony registration site, then submit.
Then it sends you an email with the authentication code..."
What web site are you talking about? There is no registration. You go to the Vegas Software page on Sony web site and you click on Download Free Trial for the version you want to download and it brings you to the download page. You then click the Download button and your browser will ask you to save the file. No registration or anything. No emails. Nothing. Just download the file.

And... why are you downloading Vegas Pro if you can't afford it? I thought you were going to download the Vegas Movie Studio trial?

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 11, 2011 at 4:14:49 am

No. I did that, and i downloaded it and everything, but it won't let me run the application without registering!


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John RofranoRe: Codecs
by on Jan 11, 2011 at 12:44:11 pm

[Paige Karmen] "it won't let me run the application without registering!"
I see you were registering the trial. Yea, sometimes the Sony servers don't get back to you right away. It's best to wait a while and try again later.

~jr

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Paige KarmenRe: Codecs
by on Jan 11, 2011 at 4:17:24 am

Nevermind, i got it working, i must've done something wrong the first time i tried opening it!


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