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Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Jul 28, 2009 at 9:23:01 pm

hi all,
youve most likely read my other topics on this froum about my system low on mmory error, well after splitting my project in 4 sections and rendering each section they all was unsuceesfull but did get futher than before.
i have though managed to render the project sucessfully but it is NOT in HD so, i presume rendering in HD is causing the problem and taking to much memory.

now is there an alternative to rendering in HD and getting the same quality?(would rather render in HD)

i have also been getting further rendering in avi, mp4, m2ts,YUV but still all failed as they were HD

now we know thats rendering in HD is the issue is there anyway to overcome this issue?

also i mentioned previously that i am more than happy to buy more RAM i have 3 GB already and someone mentioned that vista 32bit cant handle anything higher than 4GB and if you get 4GB it will only use 3.5 GB is this true? would it still be worth a shot to buy an extra 1gb of ram. and have 4gb of ram overall.

problem details below as in my previous threads i only got a screen shot of it.
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Problem Description
Application Name: Vegas Pro
Application Version: Version 9.0a (Build 704)
Problem: Unmanaged Exception (0xc0000005)
Fault Module: C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc90.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.1_none_e163563597edeada\MSVCR90.dll
Fault Address: 0x6B0A4642
Fault Offset: 0x00024642

Fault Process Details
Process Path: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 9.0\vegas90.exe
Process Version: Version 9.0a (Build 704)
Process Description: Vegas Pro
Process Image Date: 2009-07-17 (Fri Jul 17) 08:13:40

many thanks
lee
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My other threads on here will give you other details you may be looking for including screenshots, pc info and vegas info...

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Jul 29, 2009 at 6:44:37 am

Hi Lee.

In the future, may I suggest sticking to one thread as long as you can, so that people do not get lost as to your previously posted system specs? I know I got lost as to what your machine specs are more than once; and then felt pretty silly about having done that.

>>also i mentioned previously that i am more than happy to buy more RAM i have 3 GB already and someone mentioned that vista 32bit cant handle anything higher than 4GB and if you get 4GB it will only use 3.5 GB is this true?

My Vista-64 workstation has different specs, but on my Vista-32 Dell laptop I have 4GB RAM installed, in two 2GB sticks. When I right click on My Computer and select Properties, it shows 4.00 GB Memory (RAM). However, under Windows Task Manager (CTRL-ALT-DEL), Performance tab, Physical Memory MB reads 3581 (i.e., 3.581GB). Other people's machines may be different: I don't know, but I think that is fairly standard.

I cannot prove this, but in my subjective personal opinion, Vista is such a memory hog that every little bit of RAM helps. RAM is so cheap now that I would definitely recommend it. And if you have an SDHC or spare USB port, you can also add a 4GB or larger 'fast' (Class 6) SDHC card, or a 'ReadyBoost Capable' USB/thumb drive, and then right-click the device in Windows Explorer, and enable 'Windows ReadyBoost' on that device. This will basically give Vista 4 more GB of RAM for use as a physical swap file. I know it helps my laptop. Please note that you can use a card or a thumb drive larger than 4GB, but Vista 32 will only assign 4GB for ReadyBoost; and then the rest just shows up as storage. But make sure all SDHC cards are Class 6, and USB/thumb drives are certified 'ReadyBoost Capable' (i.e., fast).

Another thing that definitely helps is to 'turn off the pretties.' Double-click My Computer, click Advanced System Settings, then Advanced tab, then press Performance. Select "Adjust for best performance." I recommend re-enabling "Show thumbnails instead of icons", and "smooth edges of screen fonts": but it is your computer, you can do what you want.

Vista uses a ton of system resources (RAM) for 'making things pretty' on the desktop, which does nothing for Vegas. Turning all of that stuff off will reduce a lot of memory overhead for the OS, which makes more memory available for Vegas. Personally, I prefer thumbnails over icons, because it helps me when looking for pictures; and I really prefer smoothing on screen fonts. I don't know, but I don't think either of those two things are used much when Vegas is rendering, so I don't think they cost much in terms of resources during rendering (although someone here may know lots better). However, the rest of the 'pretties' I don't need, and I prefer the extra performance. But again, it is your computer, you can do however you feel led.

I hope this will help you. Please let us know how it goes.


Norman Willis
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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Jul 29, 2009 at 4:28:52 pm

hi,thanks

i posted a new thread to get more responses and simply state that i cannot render in HD.

thanks for the information i have already tried rendering with the performance on and 'pretties' off and it didnt work.

i like the 4gb ready boost idea, is there any threads or sites you could give me so i can read up on it and maybe buy one.(what prices am i looking at here)
so what your saying this usb device is almost like ram when connected i can assgin an extra 4gb ram to my laptop giving me in laymen terms 7GB ram which should render it all together or have i got the wrong end of the stick.
if im right can i use it all the time or just when i need it i.e rendering,editing in sony pro vegas.

( i also tried rendering in 8 bit rather than 32 bit floating point but it made no change. )

thanks lee

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Jul 30, 2009 at 12:08:39 am

>>i like the 4gb ready boost idea, is there any threads or sites you could give me so i can read up on it and maybe buy one.(what prices am i looking at here)

Try:

http://www.tigerdirect.com
http://www.newegg.com

4GB Class 6 SDHC should be about $10-20.00.
4GB ReadyBoost Capable Thumb Drive should be about the same.

>>so what your saying this usb device is almost like ram when connected i can assgin an extra 4gb ram to my laptop giving me in laymen terms 7GB ram which should render it all together or have i got the wrong end of the stick. if im right can i use it all the time or just when i need it i.e rendering,editing in sony pro vegas.

Yes. It is RAM: just a different type.

Just put it in, enable it for ReadyBoost, and leave it in.

I leave a 4GB SDHC card in, because it sits flush. You can take it out and the system will not crash: it just does not run quite as fast.

If you opt for the thumb drive, Kodak makes some half-size ones that fit nice and tight to the system, and do not flop around.


I would think that the main thing would be to boost to 4GB RAM, 4GB ReadyBoost RAM, and then give a 6GB static swap file (6GB initial, 6GB maximum).

I sure hope that helps you get HD.


Norman Willis
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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Jul 30, 2009 at 4:22:01 pm

thanks, today though i tried rendering back in normal (non HD) and it didnt work so now i cannot render at all, i am losing my mind, i will give this ago though.

if only i could send my project to someone, but its never that easy is it. haha(crys in anger)

thanks
lee

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Jul 30, 2009 at 5:22:56 pm

Lee,

If it is that bad, can you go to Best Buy or something, get more RAM locally, and then try reloading Windows? You may have a corrupt installation, and reloading would certainly fix that.

It is kind of a drastic step, but if that is the problem, it will be quicker just to reload, and be done with the problem.

I sure hope this helps you.

Norman Willis
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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Jul 31, 2009 at 6:29:20 pm

i cant render still, i am thinking of buying a new laptop to handle this type of situation what would you reccoment im thinking of something along the lines of a laptop with 8gb ram and a quad core.

that sound good? because a quad core must have its benefits over a dual core when editing and rendering HD.

any websites and laptops you would think could be ideal for this, also for normal activtys such as browsing the web and photoshop...

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Jul 31, 2009 at 8:21:48 pm

desktop would be waaaay better,
unless you absolutely must have the mobility.
google http://www.johnrofrano.com, and see what he recommends for system specs. He is "mister Vegas"
shalom


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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Jul 31, 2009 at 10:28:51 pm

use your existing laptop to browse the web, and to do emails, then load only essential programs on your desktop, and keep it off the Internet as much as possible. That way you don't get hit by a virus.

HP and Ibuypower make good machines with standard parts. Dell uses non-standard parts, which can cause problems.

I hope that helps.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 2, 2009 at 12:59:02 am

> i am thinking of buying a new laptop to handle this type of situation what would you reccoment im thinking of something along the lines of a laptop with 8gb ram and a quad core.

That is going to cost you a small fortune. In fact, I would guess you could buy two desktops just as powerful for the price of one laptop. QuadCore laptops are hard to find and at a premium right now.

I would get a desktop unless you absolutely need the portability of a laptop. If so, don't forget to get 7200RPM hard drives (the 5400RPM are kinda slow for video editing... they'll get buy in a pinch but you really want 7200's)

The Lenovo Thinkpad W700 is a nice system. Configured with a 2.53GHz Quad Core, 8GB of memory and a 250GB 7200RPM hard drive, it's only $5,058.00 but it's on sale this week for only $4,524.00. (maybe you could buy three (3) desktops for that price). ;-)

~jr

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59:26 am

thanks for the reply,
ive been looking around and wow these laptops are definately out of my price range by a mile.
i dont get why my pc is playing up so i got all the files and put it on a brand new laptop straight out of the shop 3gb ram core duo, and exactly the same thing happens so ive came to the conclusion that sony pro vegas 9 takes up alot more memory than pro 8 and because of this, it cannot render in HD also this project has much mre FX's to render and the footage is all prerendered in clips rather than raw files.
so im trying to compress it and send it off to someones quad core pc, but all the files needed comes to 2GB with 115 files in 1 folder which when compressed is still 2GB.
so i stumped and a very frustrated as this should of been done ages ago. but thanks for the replys i gonna look at some 'cheap' but powerfull desktops to render and use for editing and either keep my laptop or sell it.

any desktops you recommend for HD editng and rendering in pro 9.
i dont want any problems like my laptop because it is an extremefully frustraing thing.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 2, 2009 at 2:03:21 pm

> any desktops you recommend for HD editng and rendering in pro 9.

I like to build my own. If I had to buy I would probable buy an HP Workstation (not their desktop line but their workstation line), or from a boutique builder like iBuyPower as Norman said. The good thing about HP is that they purposefully build some of their workstations for video editing and they are awesome. What's good about a company like iBuyPower is that they use industry standard parts just like you would if you built it yourself. You even get to select what motherboard and brand of memory. If you ever want to upgrade, you can get parts anywhere.

The current QuadCore to own is the Intel i7. The low end 920 can be overclocked quite a bit from what I've read and is really a price performer. Memory on the i7 has a different channel configuration so instead of getting 2 sticks in pairs to make 4 or 8GB you need to get 3 sticks to get 3, 6, or 12GB. Probably the most critical thing for video editors is to have at least two physical hard drives so that your editing is on a separate drive from the swap file and temp space of the operating system.

~jr

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Aug 2, 2009 at 7:50:08 pm

>>thanks for the replys i gonna look at some 'cheap' but powerfull desktops to render and use for editing and either keep my laptop or sell it.

Unless you really need the cash, may I recommend keeping the laptop, for emails and other stuff?

That way you can load only the software that you really need on the workstation, and when it is rendering stuff out, you can still use your laptop for other stuff.

Also, that way you do not take the risk of your workstation getting hit by a virus.

Just some thoughts.

Norman Willis
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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Richard Zipf on Aug 3, 2009 at 4:43:43 am

I am running Vegas Pro 9 x32 on a fast Dell Quad-core Vista x64 machine with 8GB of RAM and also experience the inability of Vegas Pro 9 x32 to render 1920x1080 MP4 files (same "insufficient memory error message"), in spite of deleting all non-essential background running processes.

I think it is a defect within Vegas, as I had no such trouble with Vegas Pro 8, & hope the Vegas gurus come up with a fix in the next Vegas Pro 9 upgrade.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 3, 2009 at 9:11:48 pm

to fix issue ive bought on a 7 day trial a dell studio 540 tower ( montior is my tv) to use it,its brand new, its quad core, 4gb ram Q4000 all at 2.33gHz, and exactly the same error message occurs, when open and rendering, my ram never goes past 2.gb out of 4.gb yet my cpu usage ( on both quad core pc and dual core laptop) goes through the roof to 100%, is it my footage? my fxs its edited well but not extremely edited like every clip, i really dont understand what the damn problem is, and i am extremely angry, i just have the urge to pick up the pc and through it through my window. any help.

on my quad core pc it occurs instantly
the laptop either instantly to 5 mins tops.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Aug 4, 2009 at 7:45:44 am

>>to fix issue ive bought on a 7 day trial a dell studio 540 tower

>>i really dont understand what the damn problem is....

>>any help.

Lee, part of your problem is Dell. John Rofrano specified that Dell parts are inferior.

Ditch the Dell. Get an HP workstation (not desktop: workstation) or an IBuyPower rig.

Hope that helps.

Norman

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 4, 2009 at 11:24:53 am

is there a decent quad core workstation for under £500(im gonna look around now), because thats pretty much my limit, also i would like to know more about the partion drives, what would you reccomend the partion drives to be and how do you do it, as its a little bit confusing.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Aug 5, 2009 at 3:15:46 am

Lee, I apologize. I don't know how you can do it that cheap.

If you really need to, you might sell your laptop in order to come up with the cash. I would think that the minimum you would need would be at least 750 pounds.

Please follow the specs outlined on John Rofrano's website closely.

And yes, HD requires a lot of resources.

I wish I could be more help than that.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 5, 2009 at 4:45:11 pm

well ive been looking around and i tried a programe which allow vegas to use more than 2gb ram but it didnt work, but ive read alot about 64bit pcs.

so im gonna stick with my laptop for personal uses and but a 64bit baseunit ( just the tower no monitor) and hook it up to my tv and use that as my monitor.

so im now looking for a 64bit quad core pc with 8gb ram(x64 bit will use all 8gb ram.)

and only install sony pro vegas 9.0a and will update when necessary

looking around the £400-500 margin.( only base unit/ tower)

dont know what manafacture i want, i like dell, cant afford HP workstation, any suggestions

what i cant understand is when i render my cpu usage goes to 100% but my ram/memory doesnt go past 2/2.5 gb out of 3gb which means it has more memory to use.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Aug 5, 2009 at 4:55:58 pm

I don't quite get memory usage either.

I know that Sony does put out a minimum spec on the processor that one needs for HD. I think it is 2.8 GHz for a single-core processor, and I think John Rofrano said that 2.66 GHz will work in a Quad Core; but not to go any lower than that.

I know this stuff is expensive.

What are you doing videos for?

Norman Willis
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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 5, 2009 at 5:12:58 pm

youtube and burning to disc, in HD, just rendering to wmv in either 720p or 1080-60 template. videos around 10mins but complex with many clips(all in wmv) fxs, pictures, pngs... multiple songs, text.

so quad core at 2.66ghz thanks for that it should come handy the dell stuido 540 quad was only 2.33ghz but to play safe i might look for a quad core higher than 2.66ghz.. i just hope i dont get the same problem because then i would be stumped and have to put it down to sony pro vegas as many people are also getting these errors hopefully 9.0b is a fixes the issues.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Aug 5, 2009 at 5:18:19 pm

I am not the expert, but I think many people are having trouble with .wmv in Vegas.

I think there is a way to convert them to .avi with a free video converter called Super(c).

Perhaps if you Google it you can find Super(c) converter, and convert your .wmv's to .avi, and give that a test run? As I think that might be your problem.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 6, 2009 at 1:15:49 am

> dont know what manafacture i want, i like dell, cant afford HP workstation, any suggestions

I don't like Dell and would recommend HP Workstation but since you can't afford one, try a small builder like iBuyPower.com. Usually gaming PC's are perfectly suited for video editing and small builders let you select your own components which allows you to trim the cost here and there.

~jr

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 6, 2009 at 11:09:37 am

yes ive been looking at ibuypower pcspecialist and other build your own pc websites, and im looking at a intel 2quad core 2.83ghz, 8gb ram 64bit vista base unit, no monitor and cheapest so far is around £540 , would you reccomend these sites they seem to come out quite a bit cheaper but i wonder why?

i prresume a quad core at 2.83ghz should be more than enough to carry out the task. what is overclocking, i have some basic info on it and it allows the processor to go higher thans it stated eg. 2.83ghz overclocked to 3.00ghz for a short period, is this correct.

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 7, 2009 at 2:09:22 am

> would you reccomend these sites they seem to come out quite a bit cheaper but i wonder why?

I only have experience with iBuyPower and yes, I would recommend them. I usually build PC's for a friend of mine but this time around he needed one fast and I didn't have time to build one so after a bunch of research I directed him to iBuyPower for his new QuadCore. He is very happy with the PC and I saw it and it was very well built. I'd have no problem ordering from them. I'm sure the other small builders are just as dedicated because it's really word of mouth that brings them business so they want happy customers.

~jr

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 7, 2009 at 5:23:23 pm

im actually now looking at building one myself, with some help of course from a friend, if i dont i will most likly go with ibuypower but building it myself i can get a power machine alot cheaper

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 7, 2009 at 5:27:28 pm

It is always better to build your own and not as hard as some people might think. This way you know what you're getting and you can upgrade as needed because you know how it is built. ;-)

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Norman Willis on Aug 7, 2009 at 5:30:27 pm

you can also buy kits, but be sure to check the kit out, to make sure it is all Intel standard parts, or else you will end up back in the same boat you are in now.

Please adhere closely to the specs on http://www.johnrofrano.com

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 9, 2009 at 2:52:16 pm

ive been looking around and found some good stuff about building your own pc, but i might not need to as pcspecailist.co.uk have some great prices, tell me what you think of this im sure this will be capable of HD editing and rendering,

64bit and a windows 7 64bit uprage voucher(as windows 7 looks alot better than vista in memory and perforamnce)
its £580 including VAT but i can claim VAT back from the business which takes it to £504. i think this is good, what are your thoughts, it should be powerfull enough



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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 9, 2009 at 3:01:53 pm

Everything looks good except that the power supply is extremely small at 350W. I wouldn't use anything less that 500W becasue you are sure to add more hard drives later and will need the extra power. The other problem is that it only has one hard drive. You need a second physical hard drive for your video projects. Preferably 500GB or greater. Perhaps you plan to add that yourself? Other than that, it looks like a powerful PC.

~jr

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 9, 2009 at 3:09:22 pm

so two hard drives? what you put each at, would this mean i wouldnt need to partion them and why two hard drives as im a little con fused.
i presume you would have both at 500 gb? could you tell me why two hard drvies and why 500gb.

also is the video card strong enough of should i go with a radeon HD?

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 9, 2009 at 3:17:56 pm

£540 excluding VAT, is this what you would now consider ideal. will it work and stop the memory/cpu issue ( is it powerfull enough to render a complex HD video as i dont want to buy it and get the same error. im gonna email the site to see if they do trials.


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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by John Rofrano on Aug 9, 2009 at 4:23:44 pm

> is it powerfull enough to render a complex HD video...

OK, I went to their web site and I see the next PSU above the 450W is 700W. I would get the 700W. You don't want to skimp in the power supply. It can be the cause of numerous intermittent problems that are very hard to trace but all point back to the PSU being underpowered during a long render where the load is the most demanding. Don't forget, when you render you are running a very power hungry CPU at or near 100% for hours at a time!!! That demands a good power supply that can provide sustained power.

Instead of two 500GB hard drives I would stay with the 250GB for the OS drive and maybe go with the 1TB drive for video editing. The reason I say the 1TB is because there is a £8 difference in price between 2x500MB and 250MB+1TB so it makes better sense for the money.

> so two hard drives? what you put each at, would this mean i wouldnt need to partion them and why two hard drives as im a little con fused. i presume you would have both at 500 gb? could you tell me why two hard drvies and why 500gb.

The purpose of having separate drives is so that the read/write heads of one do not conflict with the other. Windows is constantly managing virtual memory and reading and writing blocks of memory to it's swap file. If you have only one drive, when Windows starts to write to the swap file, it will stop reading your video files. This is not good and can cause stuttering during playback or dropouts during capture.

By having two physically separate drives, windows can manage the swap file on one and load programs from one, while your videos are being read and written to simultaneously on the other. This is why most people recommend two physically separate drives. One for your OS and applications and the other for you video project media so that you have independent access via independent drive heads (which you don't get by partitioning one drive). They don't have to be the same size and, in fact, the 250GB is more than enough for the OS and applications. The media drive should be as big as you can afford. You can never have too much disc space.

> also is the video card strong enough of should i go with a radeon HD?

Vegas doesn't use the video card for anything so unless you have other applications that require a powerful video card there is no sense in buying one. You might want to get a 9000 series like the 9400GT with is only £6 more but it won't matter to Vegas.

> ...i dont want to buy it and get the same error.

Lee, You are assuming that a faster PC with more memory is going to solve your problem. Unless Sony Tech Support told you this, you may be very disappointed with the results.

In a 32-bit OS Vegas will never get more than 2GB of memory and your current PC has 3GB. I have been rendering hour+ long HD projects since 2005 with Vegas 6 on my XP32 PC with 4GB of memory (and XP can only see 3.25GB). I don't believe that you are running out of memory or that adding more memory will solve your problem. Your original error is with with a Microsoft runtime library MSVCR90.dll. An Exception (0xc0000005) is a illegal access of memory usually caused by a bug in the code. So it could very well be a bug in Vegas Pro 9.0a, and you are buying a new computer because of it.

Having said that, the new computer might fix the problem only because it's a new install of Windows. The illegal access could be a conflict in versions of libraries which a new install might fix. You may get the exact same results simply by re-installing Windows on your existing PC (which you can do without buying any new hardware).

The first thing I would do is work with Sony Technical Support and determine what the real problem is unless you really want to buy a new PC anyway.

~jr

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Aug 11, 2009 at 7:28:17 pm

hi,
so far ive been working with sony support no soloution yet.

i see you mentioned on a 32bit os vegas will not use more than 2gb, well im using CFF explorer to alow vegas run on more than 2gb still no results, in a 64bit will vegas have more memory than 2gb?

i have put buying a new pc on hold at the moment.

i cant render this project in draft dvd resoution let alone best in 1280 x 720.

i split it again and still no luck.

i made a random project , wmv HD split the movie into clips add some Fxs and pics and it was at 2 mins length. and it rendered in 1280x720 HD wmv.and while it was open it was only at 300,000K unlike my main project at 1,000,000K (which is just under a GIG)

so its either a fault/corrution in my main project or is too complex for my laptop.( also my frames go red or black but a simple restart fixes this.

picture of the succesfull render of the other project.

picture of my main project which was unsucessfull


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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by matt cohn on Sep 19, 2009 at 11:16:46 pm

wow, its wierd to see this thread -on how to stop Vegas crashing- be mostly about how to get a better machine that will have enough memory etc to not crash. but as a couple of people pointed out, thats NOT THE PROBLEM. I have 3 top end machines, each with quad or 8 core, 32 and 64 bit, 4-8gig ram, and still Vegas cannot manage a render of a 20min section 1648x768 res project without falling over.

I got the 9.0b release, its the same.

One commentator pointed out that Vegas6 works fine for HD, much better than 9 by the look of it.

One step forward, 3 steps back. and imho thinking that a better machine will solve things WILL NOT HELP.

Come on, Sony, the program is not fit for professional use currently, it cannot even give a proper error message when it falls over. so sort it out please.

thanks
Matt

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Nhat Nguyen on Sep 21, 2009 at 4:48:36 pm

Thank you Matt for sharing. I have the same issue about "system is low on Memory..." when rendering HD Proj in Vegas 9.0b ,my poject is 1Hr33min and takes several Hr to render to MPEG2 .m2t file (I had to pray everytime Vegas render, about 3,4 times failed w/the error)
Finally i got it (I had to render couple sections then reload into the project and offcourse Quality degrade a little..)I was thinking
to spend more money for RAM but according to your post i won't and
now i'm about to install Vegas 6 i try render HD..Hopefully it's work.Thanks again Matt.
Nhat

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Sep 23, 2009 at 8:09:06 pm

i have just recived my new pc -2.83 ghz quad core 8gb ram, opened up projects it froze for 2 mins then when i started render it completed the full render 100% with in 40 mins. so i am extremely happy now i have managed to render and in such good time for HD video in wmv format, thanks to all what helped

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Kiraz Makrz on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:20:40 pm

Hi ,
i tried render on almous same PC ,
just lil bit less Ram was , and same error :(

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by lee hayward on Oct 5, 2009 at 3:48:32 pm

mines a 64 bit version so it can use more than 3 gb ram, also has better memmory issues thers alot of topics about it, try a 64 bit pc rather than 32 bit, as it can handles b4 bits of info over 32 bits of info at the given time

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Re: Rendering in HD is the cause of system low on memory.
by Jake Sedge on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:05:58 pm

Hi! A bit of an old thread, but I may have a breakthrough! I have a quad core @ 2.3Ghz+ 4Gb RAM and am having the same problem.

My idea is to use the network render feature, but not using other computers on your network. It renders the project in segments and stitches them back together, I will let you know if it works!

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