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olaf steelcustom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 5:36:16 pm

Hi.

I'm trying to make a custom DVD menu using Photoshop for Sony DVD Architect PRO 4.5.

Basically what I'm trying to do is create three triangular shaped boxes in which three separate videos will play in a loop in the main menu. If possible I would like the outlines of these boxes to be invisible, so all that can be seen on the menu is three triangular shaped videos playing in a loop.

I'm used to using encore for creating and authoring all my DVDs and am completely new to DVD Architect, so if you can offer me any help, take it that I know nothing whatsoever about the software.

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Olaf


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John RofranoRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 7:21:28 pm

I would use Vegas to create the menu. You can import the background as an image and then use Track Motion to position the three looping videos. Render the whole thing out to MPEG2 and drop it in DVD Architect as the menu background.

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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 8:29:04 pm

thanks for your reply.

i dont have vegas. i use avid...
its important for me to use photoshop for this as i will be making buttons and highlights also. the three looping videos will not be the onl thing on the menu.

i'll give you a basic desrciption of the full menu. perhaps it will makie it easier to understand what im doing and find out how to do it.

i have filmed myself painting the menu that i will use, kind of like the menu on the 'fear and loathing in las vegas' criterion special edition menu where the title of the film can be seen being written in ink.

the intro video to the menu is the title of the film being written and some images being drawn. then i draw three triangles in the centre of what will be the menu and that is where i hope to put the three looping video segments, each sgement playing a few seconds from the film.
usually i would use encore to build my menus, but encore wont allow three video clips to be played at once, and it wont let three video boxes lie so close to eachother. i have experimented a little with sony dvd architect and it allows for all these things, i just cant create the triangular boxes i need.

i hope this helps...

thanks a lot. once again any help would be greatly appreciated.

olaf


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John RofranoRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 9:21:09 pm

DVD Architect Pro is not available without purchasing Vegas Pro 8.0 so I don't understand how you cannot have Vegas and yet have a copy of DVD Architect Pro?

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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 9:27:41 pm

hi.

i dont have either.

im attending a film college and they have the vegas studio, aswell as premiere and other adobi products. however we are encouraged to use avid for our editing and have not been introduced to any of the sony software at all yet.

i have this project im trying to complete which cant be done with the help of teachers and am trying to use DVD Architect for the first time.

olaf



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John RofranoRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:32:57 pm

If they have Vegas Movie Studio then you might have DVD Architect Studio. I don't think the Studio version of DVD Architect supports using Photoshop to make menus. If you do have a copy of DVD Architect that supports PSD menus I can tell you that it's not easy to create them (or at least I don't find it easy and so I never use it). The instructions would be in the help file if you search for PSD. It involves creating layers and naming them a special way so that DVD Architect knows what to use each for.

If the three looping videos are going to be buttons, just drag and drop them onto the menu and set them to animate which will create the looping. If they are just playing as part of the background, then I would make them part of the background video. This is why I suggested using Vegas but you can use Avid if you'd like.

Just to recap, make the looping video as part of the menu background video and create the buttons and other overlays with Photoshop or DVD Architect itself. DVD Architect also has the ability to create a menu overlay image to highlight the buttons if you don't use Photoshop.

~jr

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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 6, 2008 at 9:38:06 pm

since i dont know any of the vegas programs at all, id rather use photoshop along with dvd architect, if thats possible for what i want to know. that way i only have to learn one program rather than two in the short time i have left.

thanks again for your continued help,

olaf



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Adam Rose Esq.Re: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 8:41:04 am

well, you could drag three triangular buttons from the BUTTONS tab on to your menu, then set their media to the 3 videos on your drive, and set the Media style to animated.......

BTW, what version of DVD Architect are you using?



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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 11:14:25 am

hi, thanks for your help

i think its sony dvd architect pro 4.5... however i dont actually have it on my computer, i have to wait till tomorrow to use it. im pretty sure it is that version though.

i dont quite understand what you said though, would you be able to simplify what you said a little as i really have no idae how to use dvd architect, never used it before... i only know encore.

thanks a lot,

olaf



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Adam Rose Esq.Re: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 1:05:54 pm

somewhere on your screen will be 4 tabs, EXPLORER, THEMES, BUTTONS, BACKGROUNDS

1) find the triangle button, and drop it 3 times on your menu
2) click and delete the text from each button
3) select a button, and click on the word MEDIA in your Properties pane (usually docked on RHS of screen)
4) under Thumbnail Properties, click Thumbnail Media and choose REPLACE.
5) find first looping video you want to use
6) do same to other 2 buttons
7) set the STYLE property further down, of each button, to ANIMATED
8) select all 3 buttons, choose HIGHLIGHT in Properties pane, and change STYLE to custom

ok, that gets you the animated triangles. If you want any of them to be actual links, you would set the MEDIA property in top right to appropriate video/audio for each button. You would also prob want to alter the HIGHLIGHT /STYLE property to something else other than CUSTOM (eg to UNDERLINE) so the user knows when they have selected a triangle.

alternatively, if none of the triangles are to act as buttons, you will add your actual videos by simply drag n dropping them, via the Explorer tab, on to your menu and making suitable adjustments, and then altering the order of the buttons (dragging them) in the tree structure pane on the LHS.

hope this helps. not sure if have understood you completely.



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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 2:04:05 pm

hi, thanks for your help.

i have tried what you suggested before, and it wont work for me as the triangles are all slightly different in size and shape, hence the reason i wanted to create them in photoshop.

when desinging menus in photoshop for encore, there are certain names that have to be given to things i have created (ie. (+) denotes a button in encore and (=1) denotes a highlight). i have found that a similar system works for dvd architect, obvioulsy using different names, but i cant find the name to use for video boxes.

thank you for your continued help. greatly appreciated.

olaf



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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 2:11:36 pm

just to make things a little clearer: im trying to map the three triangular video boxes over hand drawn triangles that i have previously created.
the intro to the dvd menu will be me drawing the menu on paper, which i have already filmed. the last thing i will draw is the three triangels. once i have finished, a video should appear in each triangle and play on a loop.
none of the triangles are buttons.
there are three buttons elsewhere on the menu which i have also hand drawn. they will be simply slected by moving a small indicator up or down.

hope that helps a little.

thanks,

olaf



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Adam Rose Esq.Re: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 2:22:51 pm

understood - YOUR triangles need to be irregular sizes etc, because you be drawing them freehand, right? and DVDA only makes them uniform etc etc

pity you don't jhave vegs, since doing all the menus in vegas is easy as pie, since one can use bezier masking

know about the photoshop stuff in theory, but never used it. quite finicky stuff, unfortunately. look in the online help for DVDA - Layered Graphics Files.




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John RofranoRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 7, 2008 at 2:48:12 pm

What you want to do is not going to be possible in any DVD authoring application. If I understand you correctly you want to draw a triangle and then have video loop appear within it, then draw another triangle and have another video loop appear. This is video editing work. You are compositing multiple videos with overlays and this needs to be done in an NLE and then use it as the background for the DVD menu. You will have to learn how to do it in Avid if that's all you have. As we have already said, this is simple to do in Vegas.

If you just want to create a new frame, just drop an existing frame onto the menu and look in it's attributes to see what files were used to create it, the mask, and the highlight. Then find those files on the file system and open them in Photoshop to get an idea of what you have to do to make your own. Then make your own and change the properties to point to your versions.

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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Sep 9, 2008 at 8:58:26 pm

Thank you for all your help everyone.
I found a way to do what i wanted to do. Using photoshop i made my three triangles and named them framemasks.
then in dvd architect i could insert the video clips i want and they take up the triangular shape i created.

it looks great!

thanks again for all your help,

Olaf



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Bob MarkRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Aug 14, 2010 at 8:09:53 pm

I know this post is really old, but could say how you did this step by step? Thaanks

Bob


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olaf steelRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Aug 15, 2010 at 12:36:55 pm

Hi Bob,

I'm really sorry, its been so long since I made that menu and I can't remember how I did it really...
Even though DVD Architect is good for creating animated menus and buttons, better than Encore, I understand Encore quite well and prefer to use that, so I never returned to using Sony's apps after that project.

From what I read in my last post, it looks like I created a layer in photoshop and named it framemask, then created the shape I wanted.
After exporting the project from Photoshop with a transparent background, I would have brought it into DVD Architect and I presume just dropped the video files into the shapes.

Now I'm not sure in Photoshop if you should crate a new layer group and lable it framemask, and then create layers within that that contain all the shapes you want, or if you need to lable each layer itself framemask.
I guess the best thing is to try both options.

I'm sorry I can't be more help to you on this. Hopefully the above will be of some use.

Olaf


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Bob MarkRe: custom DVD menu for DVD Architect PRO using Photoshop
by on Aug 15, 2010 at 3:40:26 pm

Thank you for your reply Olaf. I will look into trying that. I appreciate the info!

Bob


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