ok,so i cut my music video in vegas using MXF files then i exported an AAF to premiere where i applied FX then did an AVI render uncompressed.
So now im in vegas with the HD file at 960 by 720, my final project will be broadcast at 720 by 576.
question: i need to take my file to a transfer facility to put the final cut to Betacam SP PAL. Should i output my project to tape at 720 by 480 before the conversion,or am i risking quality?
Re: HD music video to PAL by Ron Shook on Jun 24, 2008 at 3:28:19 am
Rick,
[rick kadri]"ok,so i cut my music video in vegas using MXF files then i exported an AAF to premiere where i applied FX then did an AVI render uncompressed.
So now im in vegas with the HD file at 960 by 720,"
You don't give a lot to go on. What was this project shot with? Was it shot in NTSC or PAL? In DVCPRO HD? Was it a PAL or NTSC project edit? Did you use a 3rd party plug in to edit the HD in Vegas?
[rick kadri]"my final project will be broadcast at 720 by 576.
question: i need to take my file to a transfer facility to put the final cut to Betacam SP PAL. Should i output my project to tape at 720 by 480 before the conversion,or am i risking quality?"
Are you talking about going to NTSC DV25 tape? If so, then yes, you are not only risking quality, you will surely lessen the quality. You need to talk with the transfer facility about their capability to use your file and do all the transfering to BetaSP PAL, or you need a card in your system capable of outputting component analog SD which will allow you to translate to the proper PAL codec, and of course a BetaSP PAL recorder. I'm lost as to what you used and did along the way.
Ron Shook
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Re: HD music video to PAL by Ron Shook on Jun 24, 2008 at 5:52:10 pm
Rick,
[rick kadri]"I shot on the HVX200 NTSC version at 720p/24 and used the raylight MXF codec for vegas."
OK! So you've got to talk to the folks at the transfer facility about what resources they can bring to the transfer.
[rick kadri]"So now im in vegas with the HD file at 960 by 720, my final project will be broadcast at 720 by 576."
If Raylight will enable you to output from Vegas to a full MXF DVCPRO HD file and the transfer facility can work directly from that file, then that will give you all the quality that you're ever going to get.
If the transfer facility must have tape to work with, then they are almost certainly going to have a DV deck able to feed analog component to the BetaSP deck PAL all the way through. AFAIK most, if not all, DV decks are NTSC/PAL switchable, probably including any DV deck that you have or can easily get your hands on.
So, from your NTSC 24p HD timeline in Vegas, using Raylight, I presume, export a PAL 50i SD file. Bring that into a PAL 50i SD project in Vegas and print to DV tape with the deck switched to PAL. If you have a PAL/NTSC switchable monitor you can monitor and view the tape. Take that to the transfer facility. You'll lose some color definition info from the hd file by going to PAL DV (probably not readily noticable on anything but graphics), but at least you won't lose vertical resolution by going to NTSC DV. And..., you will be asking the transfer facility to simply make a dub transfer from PAL DV to PAL BetaSP and it'll cost you less than having to run the NTSC DV through a very expensive hardware converter to PAL BetaSP.
This advice is an informed guess on my part, a guess as to what will get you the best overall quality in the end. The Vegas/Raylight combination will give you a conversion to PAL that probably isn't quite as good as a $50k hardware converter, but that should be offset by keeping all of your PAL SD vertical resolution (576 PAL vs. 480 NTSC), plus it's the cheapest way to go. But do take the advice of the folk at the transfer facility, if they seem to know what they are talking about, and if you can afford it. (g)
Ron Shook
Shoulder-High Eye Productions
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Re: HD music video to PAL by Ron Shook on Jun 25, 2008 at 2:05:07 pm
Rick,
[rick kadri]"i'll call tomorrow and see if they can work from an HD file dumped back to my HVX through P2."
If they can actually work from a file rather than tape, just dump it to a FAT32 formatted external hard drive. You shouldn't have to put it on a card, but I could be wrong. Ask 'em.
Ron Shook
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