Re: Clip audio-gain by Jeremy Rasnic on May 19, 2008 at 10:43:04 pm
1. You can put that event on a separate track.
2. You can access the volume nodes and adjust the volume fro that one event and then drop it back down for the rest of the track. (press the "V" key and then double click to place nodes)
I am sure there are other ways, but those are the methods I use.
Re: Clip audio-gain by Rasmus Mauritsen on May 19, 2008 at 11:39:14 pm
Thanks - still im finding it quite odd that there isn't an easier way to raise volume. Im a Liquid-migrator an back then i would just right click and enter gain X-dbs. Anyone?
Re: Clip audio-gain by mike calla on May 20, 2008 at 12:58:11 am
As far as i know Jeremy is right.
Put a Volume Envelope on the track. You'll get up to 6bd extra.
Vegas's audio engine is held over from its audio roots. In audio production, generally speaking, you always lower before raising. i.e.: to get a treble boost, you'll first attempt to lower the bass. Same as raising the volume, you should first attempt to lower other tracks.
But nonetheless, i see your point!!!! Especially if you have a tons of clips that need this action.
Re: Clip audio-gain by Don Bloom on May 20, 2008 at 2:08:43 am
Volume envelope, drop onto another track and use the level control on the track header, drop onto another track and use a new BUS (all tracks should be bussed anyway) adjust the buss, go into Non-Real time FX and use the Amp Mod or Volume FX, any combination of the above but as was mentioned, try lowering the level of the rest of the clips before raising the level of the one. Raisng levels CAN bring on a whole new set of challenges. Of course it all depends how good the audio is to begin with.
Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by Ron Shook on May 22, 2008 at 12:37:36 am
Mike and All,
[mike calla]"But nonetheless, i see your point!!!! Especially if you have a tons of clips that need this action."
With all the audio power of Vegas I find it incredible that simply raising or lowering the overall volume or Pan settings of individual clips is so fiddly and time wasting. The NLE that I've used for 10 years would automatically place control nodes for volume and pan on the first and last frame of every clip put into the timeline, so that it was a quick click and drag to raise or lower the overall volume of each clip without effecting any others.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not expert in Vegas so if there is some way to accomplish the same thing by preference, let me know. If not, Edward, how difficult would it be to have a script that would do the deed? I hope you'll tell me that Excalibur already has it. (g)
Ron Shook
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Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by mike calla on May 22, 2008 at 5:44:04 am
That would be a great thing!! In addition to automated node placement, maybe an envelope tool for nodes so i can change multiple fade curves at once...
my list could go on and on and on...
No software is perfect, as the long as the developer's and company listen, then I'm happy.
My wish for audio in both Vegas and ACID is level meters for each track. I've been using ACID since version 1, but that point has always kept doing my final mixes in Protools and Sonar.
Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by mike calla on May 22, 2008 at 7:38:04 am
"meters per track is part of Vegas Pro 8."
Ahhh, forgot about that. I',m still on Veg 7. Correct me if I'm wrong though, per track meters are only available in the audio mixer view? Or are they viewable on the header of the track?
If they are viewable on the track header then that will be great news for ACID version 7!!!!
Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by Edward Troxel on May 23, 2008 at 3:19:30 pm
It could definitely be scripted. I haven't seen anything that does that *exact* task but I have some that are close and have seen others that are close. Remember, you really need TWO points between each event.
Also, remember you can lower volume on an event by event basis by moving the mouse to the top edge of the event (it will turn into a hand), click, and drag down to lower the volume. If necessary, you could raise the volume on the track header and then lower the individual events as needed. Not necessarily the approach I would take but is another option.
Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by Ron Shook on May 23, 2008 at 9:51:28 pm
Edward,
[Edward Troxel]"Remember, you really need TWO points between each event."
Exactly!
[Edward Troxel]"Also, remember you can lower volume on an event by event basis by moving the mouse to the top edge of the event (it will turn into a hand), click, and drag down to lower the volume.I>
Being a novice, I wasn't aware of this. Very handy to know.
[Edward Troxel]"If necessary, you could raise the volume on the track header and then lower the individual events as needed. Not necessarily the approach I would take but is another option."
What approach would you take and why not the above approach? Although the above technique would be handy in relatively simple situations, a script that would would add volume and/or pan control nodes to the first and last frame of every audio clip event would set the stage for more complex audio tweaking without effecting adjacent clips or having to add these nodes manually.
Give me some quick advice. Is Vegas scripting more akin to say developing keyboard macros than it is to computer programming? If the former, I may take a crack at it. I have no experience since a little basic on the AppleII with computer programming, but I once developed a keyboard macro system for multicam on edit* back in the day when only Avid had multicam, that was good enough to intrigue the edit* coders. What say you?
Thanks a bunch,
Ron Shook
Shoulder-High Eye Productions
CreativeCOW Forum Host for Discreet edit*
Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by Edward Troxel on May 23, 2008 at 10:19:08 pm
[Ron Shook]"What approach would you take and why not the above approach?"
I tend to just use the volume envelope. My "four points" tool in Excalibur can add the proper nodes around a selected area. So if I want an entire clip raised or lowered, I can double-click it (to select it) and then run the four points tool.
Plus, don't forget the volume envelope is automatable!
[Ron Shook]"Is Vegas scripting more akin to say developing keyboard macros than it is to computer programming?"
Given those two choices, I'd have to go with "computer programming".
Re: Clip audio-gain: Calling Edward by Ron Shook on May 24, 2008 at 1:32:16 am
Edward,
[Edward Troxel]"I tend to just use the volume envelope. My "four points" tool in Excalibur can add the proper nodes around a selected area. So if I want an entire clip raised or lowered, I can double-click it (to select it) and then run the four points tool."
I'll have a look at just what that 4 points tool does.
[Edward Troxel]"[Ron Shook] "Is Vegas scripting more akin to say developing keyboard macros than it is to computer programming?"
Given those two choices, I'd have to go with "computer programming"."
Drat!
Ron Shook
Shoulder-High Eye Productions
CreativeCOW Forum Host for Discreet edit*
