since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here
by Wayne Grauel
on
Feb 14, 2008 at 4:49:10 pm
I recently purchased soundforge.
I can not find any way to edit the volume of an individual audio track. IT appears to be All or nothing!
i have 4 wav tracks ( 4 mics in a recording )..
the purpose of this was.. to have mics on the organ and mics in the room for congregational singing. then to mix the room into the recording
Every time I hit the "V".. envelope it wants to apply volume the envelope to all 4 channels... tell me this program is not this crippled... and why could they not have used the same keystroke "edit" schemes like they have in Vegas... ( volume sliders.. split tracks, etc...
OK.. anyone have something good to say about his program?
Re: since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here by Mike Kujbida on Feb 14, 2008 at 5:02:56 pm
My question is why you're bothering to do this in Sound Forge when, as you said, Vegas already has a Volume Envelope tool that you like?
Personally, I've alwyas used Sound Forge as a mastering and clean-up tool as, IMO, that's where it's strengths are.
Re: since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here by Wayne Grauel on Feb 14, 2008 at 5:32:13 pm
I hear you Mike.... ( Ive been doing that (Vegas) just to stay productive )
I just expected something more intuitive... I feel sorry for someone who buys this as a stand alone program. I guess for the Izotope plugins i got with it I can't be all that upset.. even though the Izotope reverb plug in is a little weird.. i keep reverting back to sony..
But.. the Izotope multichannel compressor is really good!
But you'd think a dedicated audio editor would have more going for it. ( unless i am seriously missing something )..
It was a choice between soundforge and protools at the time...
since i do a lot of audio work also.
Re: since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here by Mike Kujbida on Feb 14, 2008 at 6:11:09 pm
Wayne, it's my understanding that Sound Forge was originally designed as a CD mastering tool and I know several folks that still use it primarily for that purpose.
Multitrack capability wasn't added until the newest release.
It was never meant to be a dedicated audio editor as that's what Vegas was for.
Vegas was originally designed as a DAW (and that's when I started with it).
Video wasn't taken seriously in Vegas until version 3 and, as we know, has grown "just a bit" over the years.
Strip away all the video stuff though and it's still a DAW with all the tools it had back in version 1.
HTH.
Re: since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here by Neil Moxham on Feb 15, 2008 at 12:36:26 am
Yes...
SF (up until the latest release) is a 2 track editor.
designed that way on purpose
It excels in this dept.
I have used this product line from version 1 of everything. sound forge 1, vegas audio 1 etc...
they work together as a family. much like adobe does.
One doesnt ask photoshop to do video...but you use it to do the photos, backgrounds, text etc.
SF.. is the surgeons tools for the audio event itself.
Vegas ..is the manipulator of all the events.
DVD Arch... is the output packager for video
CD arch... is the output packager for audio
Acid... is the backing audio/midi music builder.
Cinescore... an intelligent acid for video
They all overlap to some degree.
I use SF exclusively for 2track recording audio at clubs.
The beauty is in the small remote window . Also that it asks where to put the file after the recording.
Batch conversion to mp3 with wavehammer.. then dump to thumbdrives for band members.
This would be more cumbersome with vegas.
Re: since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here by Wayne Grauel on Feb 15, 2008 at 1:57:10 am
Hi Neil,
Yeah, I have SF 9.. so I can get more tracks.. but it "appears" that they are all locked to one envelope .. even going into the Volume envelope - there's one line and it adjusts all tracks simultaneously.
So.. with that,,,, I'm working out of vegas for individual track adjustment and then using SF as the audio default editor.
Any resources on getting the most out of the Izotope tools. I've never really done much with normalization and compression.. probably an art in itself. most of what I do is live recording in churches - but i could probably use those tools to my advantage if they weren't overdone.
Re: since there is no sound forge forum.. i'll post it here by Rick Mac on Feb 16, 2008 at 2:31:10 am
Wayne,
Vegas is a much better program for mixing your audio tracks.
With Vegas you can not only write volume envelopes to each channel, you can use volume automation on each track to create the perfect mix.
Have you checked to see if the Izotope plugins show up in Vegas?
Soundforge has some really good features and uses, however multichannel mixing is not one of them.
Regards, Rick.
Rick Mac
Director of Audio Production
TCT Network - Directv 377
